U.S. Woman Moves with 4 Children to Join Deported Husband in Mexico (illegal immigration, laws)
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From my perspective, I often see that the couple wants to be with each other, there isn't any concept of it being for citizenship (the only further benefit of naturalizing over legal residency is voting, unless you want to serve on a jury). That isn't an immediate gain either. My wife cried for joy when she gained legal residency, even though she was already on a K-3 visa that allowed us to cross the border and her to live here (to be fair, there was also an aspect that she was finally able to work in the United States as well).
But she isn't as motivated to naturalize. She's qualified on time for more than a year. In her mind, it doesn't change anything (despite that it requires our younger children to go through adding biometric data at age 14; they would be able to apply to derive U.S. citizenship from her once she naturalizes).
Imagine that, she just wants enough status to live (and work) here, it matters who I am (her husband), but not what I am (a U.S. citizen)...
It doesn't matter if an illegal marries a U.S. citizen out of love, desire for citizenship or both. The fact remains that just because they want to be together does not excuse their illegal entry into our country.
I am curious, why isn't your wife motivated to become a U.S. citizen? Is it because her devotion is to Mexico instead? Mind you, I am not making any accusations here just asking a question.
It doesn't matter if an illegal marries a U.S. citizen out of love, desire for citizenship or both. The fact remains that just because they want to be together does not excuse their illegal entry into our country...
I am addressing that both illegal and legal immigrants are not typically going to marry a U.S. citizen to gain citizenship (I don't live in "malamute world"). There are many denials of I-601s, after years and thousands of dollars spent (an immigration lawyer familiar with the process is highly recommended, as well as getting advice from the I2US forum). Marrying a citizen is not any sort of guarantee on anything.
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
...I am curious, why isn't your wife motivated to become a U.S. citizen? Is it because her devotion is to Mexico instead? Mind you, I am not making any accusations here just asking a question.
You are leading the question with an incorrect assumption. It has nothing to do with her home country, or any "loyalty" that you are thinking of. She worries needlessly about the civics test, and it is always a case of finances for the petition fees (in October of last year, the fee waiver for the derivative citizenship petitions of minor children of servicemembers and veterans was removed, so we would pay full-price for that too).
She (and the kids) are quite amazingly American by now, but without the naturalization papers to prove it...
You've even seen her in Red, White, and Blue before...
I am addressing that both illegal and legal immigrants are not typically going to marry a U.S. citizen to gain citizenship (I don't live in "malamute world"). There are many denials of I-601s, after years and thousands of dollars spent (an immigration lawyer familiar with the process is highly recommended, as well as getting advice from the I2US forum). Marrying a citizen is not any sort of guarantee on anything.
You are leading the question with an incorrect assumption. It has nothing to do with her home country, or any "loyalty" that you are thinking of. She worries needlessly about the civics test, and it is always a case of finances for the petition fees (in October of last year, the fee waiver for the derivative citizenship petitions of minor children of servicemembers and veterans was removed, so we would pay full-price for that too).
She (and the kids) are quite amazingly American by now, but without the naturalization papers to prove it...
You've even seen her in Red, White, and Blue before...
Wearing red, white and blue doesn't necessarily mean one is American at heart. An American at heart would honor our laws, our culture, our language. That is true assimilation and loyalty. No divided loyalties. Again, I am generalizing here, if the shoe fits wear it, if it doesn't then don't.
And no, I made no assumptions, I merely asked a question.
Wearing red, white and blue doesn't necessarily mean one is American at heart. An American at heart would honor our laws, our culture, our language. That is true assimilation and loyalty. No divided loyalties. Again, I am generalizing here, if the shoe fits wear it, if it doesn't then don't.
And no, I made no assumptions, I merely asked a question.
Hahaha, I don't know who you envision us to be, but you're so funny...
My wife a legal immigrant who is now naturalized felt the day she became a citizen to be among the greatest days of her life. Judging by the tears for joy in the room from other immigrants I would say my wife is not unique.
Its a personal decision to naturalize or not. It saves you the hassle of renewing your green card etc. It also gives many benefits. Especially when it comes to travel. Many doors open to a us citizen that are closed to others.
Back onTopic
The woman in question elected to have a relationship with an illegal.
Common sense is clearly not her strength.
The woman has elected to move herself and her children to Mexico. One would hope to a safe region. The question begs. How will she support herself and her children? How will he? After all we read post after post from the pro illegal side about how illegals are forced to come here because of the poverty at home. The vast majority of illegals are from Mexico so it is fair to assume these conditions of poverty are pretty bad in Mexico.
4 children by an illegal. Moving into a potentially dangerous place.
The threat of poverty is very real.
Clearly common sense is not this womans strength...
I am addressing that both illegal and legal immigrants are not typically going to marry a U.S. citizen to gain citizenship (I don't live in "malamute world"). There are many denials of I-601s, after years and thousands of dollars spent (an immigration lawyer familiar with the process is highly recommended, as well as getting advice from the I2US forum). Marrying a citizen is not any sort of guarantee on anything.
You are leading the question with an incorrect assumption. It has nothing to do with her home country, or any "loyalty" that you are thinking of. She worries needlessly about the civics test, and it is always a case of finances for the petition fees (in October of last year, the fee waiver for the derivative citizenship petitions of minor children of servicemembers and veterans was removed, so we would pay full-price for that too).
She (and the kids) are quite amazingly American by now, but without the naturalization papers to prove it...
You've even seen her in Red, White, and Blue before...
Unless your wife and step kids are US citizens, they AREN'T "American".
Unless your wife and step kids are US citizens, they AREN'T "American".
Sez who? I'm not claiming formal citizenship for them, just showing how well they have adapted. My two youngest were brought so young that they don't have an accent, and are indistinguishable from their classmates.
Why are the definitions so exacting now, when the "you know what I meant" attitude and wording is so common around here?...
Hahaha, I don't know who you envision us to be, but you're so funny...
I don't envision anything about you and your family as a group. I think however that you have made your own position clear in here on illegal immigration. Sorry, but I don't see the humor that you are finding.
I know it is against the rules to get personal but you are the one that keeps bringing up your family in this forum.
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