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Old 11-07-2007, 03:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart View Post
He is just going off of what is says on the video:

minutemen berate charity workers
These guys are just trying to feed the poor and the SOS and Minutemen hassle them

People are always trying to discredit others on this forum, it is not like we are in court here.
So if I post video that states that La Raza is in cahoots with the KKK--just because it says so on the video title, I'm not required to make sure that I have an accurate source before I try to discredit La Raza's reputation that video?

Well, that makes shoving blatant falsehoods down the throats of the unsuspecting public ever so much easier....
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:04 PM
 
Location: California
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Get your facts straight Pro. I know several of those people. They belong to another less politically correct anti-illegal immigration group called SOS. They are NOT Minutemen.

It pays to check your facts before you post. All anti-illegal immigration groups are NOT Minutemen!
Thats what the title of the video said, so I'll stick with that.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Thats what the title of the video said, so I'll stick with that.
Well, that's a smart thing to do considering that whomever posted that video wouldn't know a Minuteman from a jar of Miracle Whip. The Minutemen are required to adhere to a very strict SOP-Standard Operating Procedure. If any person is found to violate the SOP, they are shown the door in no uncertain terms.

1. Minutemen are courteous to everyone with whom they come into contact, and never discriminate against anyone for any reason.
2. Minutemen do not respond to any taunts or harassment from outside agitators, and must never be present for duty or serve in any capacity if intoxicated.
3. Minutemen Observe, Report,Record, and Direct Border Patrol or other appropriate emergency or law enforcement agencies to suspected Illegal Aliens or Illegal Activities.
4. Minutemen do not verbally contact, physically gesture to or have any form of communications with suspected Illegal Aliens.
5. Minutemen follow the Standard Operating Procedures to the letter and spirit.
6. Minutemen follow all federal, state and local laws, understanding that we are being held to a higher standard by all.
7. Minutemen understand that, while our actions cannot stop illegal activities along the border, we can change world perception and national thought concerning Homeland and Border Security.
8. Minutemen monitor their behavior, the behavior of the people around them and the group as a whole to ensure compliance with the SOP and any instruction given by Minuteman Corps Leadership.
9. Minutemen leave no garbage behind and follow strict pack-in / pack-out procedures.
10. Minutemen respect the property rights of everyone, start no fires, never drive off road, and follow the directions of all law enforcement personnel.

A word of advice: you will be held responsible, not just by law enforcement, but by the rules of our society, of mankind. You can be guaranteed that the first response towards any irrational or illegal behavior will come from within your group of compatriots. We will hold each other accountable. Any volunteer who even hints at illegal activity will be quickly ostracized from the mission and will be reported to law enforcement. You will be removed from the mission and will have forever shamed yourself -- you will not be allowed to shame the mission. Personal responsibility, accountability and temperament are the keys to success.

There has been much hand wringing, not just by the media but also from within the rank and file of potential volunteers.

Think about it this way. With the ideals explained in the previous paragraphs, anyone with the intention of stepping over the line will now realize they will not get away with it. Any possible racist, unstable or misguided element will now realize they will not succeed.

Standard Operating Procedure for Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

These people are not Minutemen. You can continue to believe so if you like, you can believe in the Easter Bunny if you want to...doesn't mean it's true. At the same time, you cry and moan about people's perceived injustices against illegal aliens, guess it makes you feel better to knowingly perpetrate an injustice against the Minutemen, eh?
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Oh now you are trying to say the Easter Bunny is not real???

=)

This board has gone bonkers.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Oh now you are trying to say the Easter Bunny is not real???

=)

This board has gone bonkers.
Hey, rabbits do NOT lay eggs. I just can't get behind an egg laying rabbit.

But I draw the liine at Santa Clause
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:38 PM
 
Location: southern california
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So what? Have you gotten to the Bill of Rights yet in your high school government class?
the thread maker did not request an opinion but i felt safe responding to your good post, you got rep.
its never about the crime is it? its always bout how the authorities handled the incident. in this case the autorities won't, so the citizens tried.
the sky is cryin
(sing it)
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I changed the title somewhat to better match up to the video itself.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:46 PM
 
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Thats what the title of the video said, so I'll stick with that.

You better not try that rationalization when you get to college and start doing term papers, lol.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:54 PM
 
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Thats what the title of the video said, so I'll stick with that.
Ouch. Stick to first sources (like if people in the video are wearing minuteman stuff, call themselves minutemen etc.).

Also, you shred your credibility when you say stuff like this...it's better to just stick to the facts and concede they *might* not be minutemen than to cling to a losing point. It shows a willingness to consider other viewpoints....and in turn others (that are rational) will extend you the same courtesy.

Best of luck.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:59 PM
 
Location: California
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Wow.. people stop lashing at me... Really.. getting pretty annoying. I "Apologize" for going with the original name of the video and not something like "Anti-illegal protestors harass charity workers". Yeesh. Proceed with sharing your opinions now, the thread title has been changed.
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