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America takes in more legal immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined! I would say that's more than fair. Not to mention 3 million illegals annually.
Our infrastructure cannot keep up with those numbers, everybody will suffer.
America takes in more legal immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined!
And guess where most legal immigrants come from? Yes...you guessed it...Mexico. More than the next nine countries combined. Yep, our policy is soooo biased against Mexicans.
United States plays "big brother" more than it should and does not spend as much time and money taking care of its own citizens. These Mexican citizens do not respect us, they are using us and it should stop and I believe it will stop because our citizens will demand that it stop.
The US is fairly rare, in terms of the world's cultures. We suffer a lot of self-recrimination and guilt. Most cultures--(particularly "macho" cultures)---don't think this way. In those cultures, being overly "nice", or trying to compromise, or to appease others, doesn't get you any gratitude--it gets you disgust and contempt. You look like a fool---or a sissy---or just plain pathetic,... if you don't "stand up for yourself". In the eyes of many cultures, we Americans are WAY too accomodating to get any respect. We're "wimps" in their eyes, and don't deserve to be taken seriously.
Sorry if I sound blunt....but this is a pretty "blunt" issue...
I don't know but this quote from Gandhi left me thinking.
If someone has seen Gandhi's movie, with Ben Kingsley representing him, I recommend it, what would have Gandhi done if he was an illegal immigrant?
What are your thoughts?
passive disobediance, the ghandi way works
civil disobediance the martin luther king way works
lying cheating and stealing violent crack head gang bang way, you know the new way
does not work. its just another bad guy trying to look like a victim
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Originally Posted by macmeal
The US is fairly rare, in terms of the world's cultures. We suffer a lot of self-recrimination and guilt. Most cultures--(particularly "macho" cultures)---don't think this way. In those cultures, being overly "nice", or trying to compromise, or to appease others, doesn't get you any gratitude--it gets you disgust and contempt. You look like a fool---or a sissy---or just plain pathetic,... if you don't "stand up for yourself". In the eyes of many cultures, we Americans are WAY too accomodating to get any respect. We're "wimps" in their eyes, and don't deserve to be taken seriously.
Sorry if I sound blunt....but this is a pretty "blunt" issue...
Thankfully, specially in big and modern Mexican cities, younger generations are starting to shun that Macho attitude.
Yuck!
I think that Macho attitude is nothing but a mask for an inferiority complex
Now getting back to topic:
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Originally Posted by Bunky39
passive disobediance, the ghandi way works
civil disobediance the martin luther king way works
lying cheating and stealing violent crack head gang bang way, you know the new way
does not work. its just another bad guy trying to look like a victim
First of all, I want to thank you people for your time and responses
Now please tell me, all of you what would you think if a leader like Gandhi or Martin Luther king rose and started guiding those people far from lying cheating and stealing violent crack head gang bang way into passive disobediance or civil disobediance?
Imagine they were holding American flags instead of foreign flags, kindly asking to be accepted as americans combined with their disobediance what would you think of them?
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Whether current immigration law benefits America is completely irrelevant. It is our right, as a sovereign nation, to implement any law we choose. This is the meaning of sovereignty. As a free democratic people, if we decide to harm the country through immigration law, so be it. Our national sovereignty is no different than your personal sovereignty. If you decide to harm your body by smoking and drinking, that's your business; no one else's. The same holds true with controlling the borders. The borders are ours to control. It doesn't matter what foreign nationals/governments feel about our decisions.
Exactly! And for those that think they can pick and choose the laws, you can't. The whole reason we need laws is for people that don't know enough to do the right thing. Unfortunately, more and more people don't seem to get that personal responsibility concept anymore so we will be needing to keep those laws around.....
The US is fairly rare, in terms of the world's cultures. We suffer a lot of self-recrimination and guilt. Most cultures--(particularly "macho" cultures)---don't think this way. In those cultures, being overly "nice", or trying to compromise, or to appease others, doesn't get you any gratitude--it gets you disgust and contempt. You look like a fool---or a sissy---or just plain pathetic,... if you don't "stand up for yourself". In the eyes of many cultures, we Americans are WAY too accomodating to get any respect. We're "wimps" in their eyes, and don't deserve to be taken seriously.
Sorry if I sound blunt....but this is a pretty "blunt" issue...
Right again! This whole thing is making us look like wimps. And instead of standing up and enforcing the laws we cowder at the thought of someone not "liking" us. It's time to kick butt and stop worrying about appeasing everyone.
America takes in more legal immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined! I would say that's more than fair. Not to mention 3 million illegals annually.
Our infrastructure cannot keep up with those numbers, everybody will suffer.
Excellent point! And this still isn't enough to appease the tiny pro-illegal base? Open the doors to everyone and this country will go down hill fast. Those that like to protest and complain about the laws may very well loose all their rights. Wonder if they'll think it was a good idea to overlook immigration laws then.
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