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Old 02-25-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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We read that the number of new homes being built is on the increase. They portray this as a good thing . My question is are they still using ILLEGAL ALIENS to build new homes as they have in the past? America needs to demand that the new homes are not being built by the illegal invaders.We have too many unemployed carpenters who are citizens for this to be allowed. People who hire the undocumented workers need to have the homes torn down until they can build them legally.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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Yes, they have taken over many of the housing trades. I left new home construction back around 2006. Mostly electricians and plumbers were the two trades that had not been overrun yet. Today those might be as well.
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Old 02-25-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Pa
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As the buyer, we the homeowner have a right to tour the property under construction. When I built my home 13 years ago I was here everyday.... I fired the mason because he was using labor that he refused to verify were in fact legal. My property, I have the right to reject illegal labor. All he had to do was show me their green cards. By the way his replacement only cost me a few dollars more and they were all locals. Hmmm I wonder if he paid his laborers the going wage, or pocketed the savings? I know he didn't pass the savings on to me.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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We read that the number of new homes being built is on the increase. They portray this as a good thing . My question is are they still using ILLEGAL ALIENS to build new homes as they have in the past? America needs to demand that the new homes are not being built by the illegal invaders.We have too many unemployed carpenters who are citizens for this to be allowed. People who hire the undocumented workers need to have the homes torn down until they can build them legally.
Yes they are. Remittances to Central American nations is the best indicator and they are up.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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Yes, they have taken over many of the housing trades. I left new home construction back around 2006. Mostly electricians and plumbers were the two trades that had not been overrun yet. Today those might be as well.
I haven't encountered illegal plumbers or electricians yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. Seems like every other trade associated with remodeling/home construction has already been overrun by illegals.
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Old 02-26-2014, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, construction companies hire a foreman.
They give the foreman a bucket of money and he goes out and gets the "crew" for cash payments.

So the construction company never actually hires illegals.
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Old 02-26-2014, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I haven't encountered illegal plumbers or electricians yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. Seems like every other trade associated with remodeling/home construction has already been overrun by illegals.
Both of those trades have to be licensed and the inspectors will hold the construction company liable if they are not licensed and the structure will not pass inspection.
A master electrician/plumber can lose their license and their livelihood so they don't take the chance of hiring illegals to work under their license.
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:14 AM
 
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Yes, construction companies hire a foreman.
They give the foreman a bucket of money and he goes out and gets the "crew" for cash payments.

So the construction company never actually hires illegals.
This is also true of many companies that have illegal aliens on their payrolls. Those working in their hiring departments may or may not know that the person or persons they have hired are illegal aliens. The owner of the company can be oblivious of it. E-verify will help fix that problem.
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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Wait....wait.....wait... I can still hear it.. "They are only doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do".. There are lots of jobs that able body Americans want to be doing but are not available due to open borders. Most work on new construction homes are subcontracted out. A legal person will get the job but most of his crew will be illegal. This keeps the wages suppressed in each trade. As competition increases for each job, subcontractors can under bid each other with the knowledge that their cost for wages for their crew is less because its filled with illegals. And down it goes. When I was in the trades we had a steady increase in wages from the early 80's till around the mid 90's. Then I saw more and more illegals flooding my trade. That's when I saw a leveling out then a dip in wages through the 2000's. Once it got to the mid 2000's it was flooded, with the economy in the trash people were back to the wages of the mid 90's.
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:44 AM
 
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Wait....wait.....wait... I can still hear it.. "They are only doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do".. There are lots of jobs that able body Americans want to be doing but are not available due to open borders. Most work on new construction homes are subcontracted out. A legal person will get the job but most of his crew will be illegal. This keeps the wages suppressed in each trade. As competition increases for each job, subcontractors can under bid each other with the knowledge that their cost for wages for their crew is less because its filled with illegals. And down it goes. When I was in the trades we had a steady increase in wages from the early 80's till around the mid 90's. Then I saw more and more illegals flooding my trade. That's when I saw a leveling out then a dip in wages through the 2000's. Once it got to the mid 2000's it was flooded, with the economy in the trash people were back to the wages of the mid 90's.
And if you did get a job today you'd be the only one speaking English.
Who wants to work all day among people that cannot speak English except for the foreman ?
Lunch and breaks happen when the inspector shows up.
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