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Old 11-05-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chadgates View Post
Amazing that the left is too dishonest to use the word "illegal" in the sentence when talking about what Trump and many on the right are talking about.

NO ONE is against legal immigration.

Bourdain "defends immigration"? No. What he is defending is breaking the law.
I'm against mass legal immigration of foreign workers or worse bums and terrorist too. Do we really need 1 million legal immigrants every year with the stagnate wages, high unemployment, over congestion in cities and inflation?
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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BLAME GUBMINT
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Government in America (2014 data) takes 44% of the GDP, compared to 0.08% in 1900.

This funds a gigantic RECIPIENT BASE (not necessarily the poor). And this bloc votes only for MORE for themselves.

Over 60% of American families are dependent upon government salaries, pensions, and/ or entitlements.

As to a "living wage" - far too many recipients are living off the wages of the workers.

IMHO - the "problems" of America are due to too much socialism (since 1933) and not remedied by MORE socialism.
Because raising the taxes cuts legal jobs, drives employers to seek illegals as a remedy, and eradicates any hope for folks to get good paying jobs - EXCEPT in government.

My preferred solution: ZERO TAXES on labor and business. ZERO regulations and administrative overhead. Perhaps then the worker will enjoy ALL of his wages, and can afford to "work his way up" the ladder.
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:21 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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I'm against mass legal immigration of foreign workers or worse bums and terrorist too. Do we really need 1 million legal immigrants every year with the stagnate wages, high unemployment, over congestion in cities and inflation?
I'm with you on that one.

We have a team meeting every morning. I'm in I.T. The team is 75% Indian. It's only going to get worse.
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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What a liar he is. I see young Americans doing those jobs all the time. At least at the restaurants that display an e-verify sign. Anyone who calls illegal aliens "immigrants" you know has an agenda.
Bingo

The PC crowd is in full effort mode to make the actual/accurate term of illegal alien a pejorative, so as to try and change the narrative by blurring the lines.

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Old 11-06-2015, 10:46 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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What a liar he is. I see young Americans doing those jobs all the time. At least at the restaurants that display an e-verify sign. Anyone who calls illegal aliens "immigrants" you know has an agenda.

Excuse me! he is such a disgrace, to Americans who do these jobs and well. Tired of the crap, these idiots spew, enough already of their complete utter nonsense. People like him, and his likes are the ones screwing things up in this Country, by there utter sheer idiotic ignorant nonsense. We need to start hitting these idiots back with truth and facts.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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Anthony Bourdain Hits Back at Donald Trump, Defends Immigrants - Eater


This is an excerpt of what Bourdain said. From the article:

Never, in any of those years, not once, did anyone walk into my restaurant — any American-born kid — walk into my restaurant and say I'd like a job as a night porter or a dishwasher. Even a prep cook — few and far between. Just not willing to start at the bottom like that.

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I say, really? Funny how restaurants that use E-verify never have any problems finding American citizens and legal immigrants to take these jobs.

Also notice how the article title once again blurs the lines between legal immigrants and illegal aliens?
I've owned a restaurant for 2 years, and worked in restaurants longer, and I can say the same thing. I've never had an American kid apply or want to work those jobs. All they want to be is delivery drivers, occasionally waitstaff, or some sort of manager... Of course I have people doing those already. So I don't think Bourdain is wrong at all. When we finally do get Americans to work, they might last a month at best, we went through 7 employees in 3 months one time... and I only have 3 employees total! Americans don't have good work ethics and the one's that do, aren't working jobs like dishwashers or busboys. Who with a proper education and good work ethic wants to make $15,000-20,000/year? If you are an American and you are at the bottom, I'd bet money that person is lazy and has a bad work ethic. Mike Rowe has been saying similar things for years, and he is normally praised by conservatives, but once Bourdain, who leans liberal, says anything, watch out! I owned a lawn care business years ago and I had the exact same problems. The younger generations are getting worse and worse, it's a sad state, but it's true. The restaurant industry, which is already incredibly competitive will get worse.

I support E-verify, but anyone who thinks that will solve the majority of problems is mistaken. You know how easy it is to have an employee off the books, that's what they are doing anyway, E-verify can't change that.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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I've owned a restaurant for 2 years, and worked in restaurants longer, and I can say the same thing. I've never had an American kid apply or want to work those jobs. All they want to be is delivery drivers, occasionally waitstaff, or some sort of manager... Of course I have people doing those already. So I don't think Bourdain is wrong at all. When we finally do get Americans to work, they might last a month at best, we went through 7 employees in 3 months one time... and I only have 3 employees total! Americans don't have good work ethics and the one's that do, aren't working jobs like dishwashers or busboys. Who with a proper education and good work ethic wants to make $15,000-20,000/year? If you are an American and you are at the bottom, I'd bet money that person is lazy and has a bad work ethic. Mike Rowe has been saying similar things for years, and he is normally praised by conservatives, but once Bourdain, who leans liberal, says anything, watch out! I owned a lawn care business years ago and I had the exact same problems. The younger generations are getting worse and worse, it's a sad state, but it's true. The restaurant industry, which is already incredibly competitive will get worse.

I support E-verify, but anyone who thinks that will solve the majority of problems is mistaken. You know how easy it is to have an employee off the books, that's what they are doing anyway, E-verify can't change that.
I guess the wages you restaurant people pay ain't high enough. Word is In N Out Burger pays some serious wages, has all Americans or legal aliens there AND their food's cheap.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD View Post
Anthony Bourdain Hits Back at Donald Trump, Defends Immigrants - Eater


This is an excerpt of what Bourdain said. From the article:

Never, in any of those years, not once, did anyone walk into my restaurant — any American-born kid — walk into my restaurant and say I'd like a job as a night porter or a dishwasher. Even a prep cook — few and far between. Just not willing to start at the bottom like that.

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I say, really? Funny how restaurants that use E-verify never have any problems finding American citizens and legal immigrants to take these jobs.

Also notice how the article title once again blurs the lines between legal immigrants and illegal aliens?
Bourdain is an arrogant snob. I have no reason to listen to anything he says.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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I don't think he is lying. His restaurants are in places that are flush with immigrants and all the White kids are from wealthy families. And if those White kids do want to cook, their parents put up the 80 grand to send them to the CIA or other top notch chef school.

Here in Ohio, it is a different story. Every time I see a job being done that I would expect to see a Mexican doing, it is a White guy.
^^^This. As such, he is out of touch with other parts of the country where the "locals" aren't too rich to wash dishes for a paycheck.

Anyone arguing that the influx of millions of cheap laborers hasn't had any impact on wages for those types of jobs is likely seriously lacking in cultural and geographic diversity in their experiences.

I have to wonder how many posters thinking Bourdain is mostly right have ever lived in a rural or even low cost of living area....or worked a low paying manual labor job.

Bourdain is only correct for his little pocket of life and if you look at his age (almost 60) biography etc. it's clear he's pretty much been in high income pockets of the northeast for close to the last 40 years (or more).

He has an extreme lack of diversity to be weighing in on the topic.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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I don't think much of Mr Bourdain: he's an arrogant POS snob IMHO.
Yup and hopefully someone will hit him back, with a bat hopefully.
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