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Old 12-09-2016, 07:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
But you are legal right so what are you worried about?

Ummmm they have records of people's passports
This one

 
Old 12-09-2016, 07:55 PM
 
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850,000 cops paid how? Have to be trained and suitably credentialed. They are now federal officers. Which means the Feds are going to be asked by the Police Depts for payment. How does that happen?

And the standard is the cops hand the person to the feds for disposition. But there are no new feds. So where do these newly apprehended illegals end up? Well released of course.

You seem to have some problem with the actual situation. There is enough money to deport up to 400,000 aliens a year. The feds have some control over which aliens...but they cannot increase the number without more budget.

And local cops are not going to do squat without payment. As Police Chief would you cut down local patrols or anti=car theft operations so you could arrest illegals?
What do you mean paid how? They are already paid

I can tell you there isn't much training. Maybe an 8 hour class

Again they are already paid.

Government has plenty of federal officers. ICE. Dea. Fbi. Atf. Hsi. Dhs.

Have to spend billions now to save trillions later. Simple concept.

Oh police are waiting for the go ahead. Believe me.
 
Old 12-09-2016, 07:57 PM
 
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what is with all this leftist, righty nonsense? Reagan now a leftist in your revisionist history?

a reagan legacy: Amnesty for illegal immigrants : Npr

this:

26 republicans vote against blackburn amendment to defund obama

and this:

gop voters on super tuesday said they support 'amnesty' | the daily caller

it's a two party problem and has always been a two party problem.
reagan started the disaster that is today
 
Old 12-09-2016, 08:00 PM
 
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agree!


Liberals are the first to say we can not do it. When in fact with combined resources it can be done.


Federal, State and Local.


These Illegals are entitled to Speedy trial and on the premises of basic Immigrations Docs the process can be done in 3 weeks with special courts set up in the Detention centers.



Although I'll give them 5 minutes in front of a judge!
 
Old 12-09-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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No, we can't. There's no way of rounding them up without violating the rights of millions of Americans.


Wrong.

You have no clue
 
Old 12-09-2016, 08:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
And it's probably 30+ million people including anchors and anchors of anchors


And no one said it was going to be done in a year. It might take 5 or 10 years.


1. Secure border. Hire more border patrol. 50,000 troops

2. 120 day notice to self deport. Take anchor kids under 18. First ones to leave are the first ones to get on the list to come back

3. Any illegal with ANY criminal arrest gets the boot and never allowed back.

4. Any illegal that doesn't leave and is caught gets boot and never allowed back

5. End birthright citizenship immediately

6. Give 850,000 cops immigration powers

7. Ice raids on employers

8. E verify

9. Deport as contact is made

10. Cut off ALL assistance



Can't work
Can't drive
Can't eat

They would be gone
This is not gonna happen. Just forget about it. This is cheap labor for businesses, who the politicians are beholden to.

Deporting people would be immensely expensive. Taxes are going to be cut massively for the mega-wealthy, so we'll have less revenue. Where do you think we'd get the money to do that?

The cops...think that through, would ya? They are hired by and paid for by cities. The cities don't have money to pay for their cops rounding up or handling immigration matters, which are the responsibility of the fed. There are barely enough cops to maintain law and order. Unless the fed wants to pass out billions so that cities can hire a lot of immigrant-trained cops.

Immigrants are deported every day. Do you know that more immigrants have been deported under the Obama Administration than any other? But they come back.

Drying up the jobs would do the trick. But the businesses do not want that, so it's not gonna happen. Period. We are run by corporations, now. The latina maids of the very wealthy...are gonna stay right where they are. The illegal immigrants that Trump has hired are going to stay right where they are.

He's going to say that several million illegal immigrant criminals are deported. And that's about all that's going to happen. And they probably will be deported, since they are slated to be deported, anyway.

ICE only has so many employees. So do cities and states. We're not going to raise taxes to hire more people, so there's only so much they can do. In fact, when taxes are cut, they will struggle to just stay the course.

This is the problem with hiring a business man into government. Government is not business. The country is not a business. We the people pay taxes that run the country. If you willingly cut revenue (taxes), then the country has less to run on. You can't just raise prices or shut a shop down, like you can in the business world. It's a balancing act between revenue and important agencies that have important work to do for the country to operate well for its citizens. Those agencies aren't profit centers. That's not their purpose. Trump will learn these things, I guess.
 
Old 12-09-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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Pollen,

Again. Police are waiting to start enforcing it. Again have to spend billions now to save trillions later.

I'm pretty sure omoron counted turnarounds as deportations
 
Old 12-09-2016, 08:51 PM
 
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No "need" to "round up" illegal aliens; just grab then when their kind are committing other crimes, MOST will leave the US real fast with the few hard heads left being real quiet.
So you're saying that MOST of the 11 million estimated undocumented immigrants are committing other crimes?
 
Old 12-09-2016, 10:10 PM
 
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So you're saying that MOST of the 11 million estimated undocumented immigrants are committing other crimes?
Many do.
 
Old 12-10-2016, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Great Proposal!




That would free up....let's say 25% of them are working, the rest are children and mothers....just more than Three MILLION Jobs.


They earn probably somewhere between $8 and $12 per hour, with no benefits. Bingo! Another one of The Donald's promises just came true: 1 Million jobs for Americans....well, three million actually. Yank the food stamps and the other social programs for these three million American workers and we will be really moving forward. Maybe give recent college grads first shot at the jobs. Doesn't take too much training to wash dishes or handle a shovel.


Take America Back(wards).
How is giving 3 million Americans jobs going to take us backwards?
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