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I'm not sure if immigrants,either legal or illegal,have been a big problem for Black Americans. Blacks have largely been concentrated in manufacturing and government jobs. I haven't known of illegal immigrants being a threat to Blacks in those jobs.
Black americans are on a lower social economics compare to white and asian americans. Why do you think immigrants (legal or illegal) do not pose a problem for black americans?
And i am not even talking about other resources (school overcrowd, rent, etc) that black americans have to compete
According to Earl Ofari Hutchinson it's still job discrimination affecting Blacks in construction and not illegal workers so much.
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The reasons for Black invisibility at street construction sites in L.A. are racist exclusion, cheap labor, and the refusal of L.A. city and county officials to enforce anti-discrimination labor laws. But most importantly, the reason is racist exclusion. The starting point is the unions. The long history of racial closed doors toward African Americans in the trades is well-known and documented. Construction being at the top of the list...
Black americans are on a lower social economics compare to white and asian americans. Why do you think immigrants (legal or illegal) do not pose a problem for black americans?
And i am not even talking about other resources (school overcrowd, rent, etc) that black americans have to compete
Whites are where they are for many reasons, many not good, but at least they credit their rise from a more difficult place than Asians. Over 3 billion Asians and we have a small sliver of their privileged/upwardly mobile population in which the vast majority entered after Social Security, Civil rights laws and highways where implemented as well as a few major wars fought. I’ve been to Asia, the Joe sh/t proportion of their population is no different than anywhere else.
One of the issues that I have with folks like Anderson, or folk who interpret Anderson's argument, is that too much of the sentiment has been anti-immigrant, rather than anti-employer/anti-system that set things up putting immigrant and "native" African-American against each other.
One of the issues that I have with folks like Anderson, or folk who interpret Anderson's argument, is that too much of the sentiment has been anti-immigrant, rather than anti-employer/anti-system that set things up putting immigrant and "native" African-American against each other.
He mentioned the DACAs they aren't immigrants but illegal aliens and we should all oppose their presence here and that doesn't make one anti-"immigrant". Illegal aliens of any kind do take jobs from Americans including blacks. Legal immigration should only be permitted if they are going to be a benefit to our society rather than a burden and not be put in competition for jobs against Americans. That does not make one anti-immigrant either.
He mentioned the DACAs they aren't immigrants but illegal aliens and we should all oppose their presence here and that doesn't make one anti-"immigrant". Illegal aliens of any kind do take jobs from Americans including blacks. Legal immigration should only be permitted if they are going to be a benefit to our society rather than a burden and not be put in competition for jobs against Americans. That does not make one anti-immigrant either.
How much energy is spent against the employers who employ these immigrants, as opposed to the immigrants, themselves? How much focus is there busting companies for hiring illegal immigrants, or engaging in illegal labor practices, as opposed to ICE at the border or the need to build a wall?
The focus on immigrant-only does make an initiative anti-immigrant.
How much energy is spent against the employers who employ these immigrants, as opposed to the immigrants, themselves? How much focus is there busting companies for hiring illegal immigrants, or engaging in illegal labor practices, as opposed to ICE at the border or the need to build a wall?
The focus on immigrant-only does make an initiative anti-immigrant.
Until there is a mandated e-verify (of which the Democrats oppose unless there is a massive amnesty attached to it) it is hard to prove that an employer "knowingly" hired illegal aliens as the present authentic looking fake or stolen ID's. Since Trump has been president several companies have been caught and held accountable. By the way, illegal aliens aren't plain ole immigrants.
We need a complete package to deter illegal entry and that's e-verify, more Border Patrol, the wall and to remove all other incentives to illegal entry of which is denying birthright citizenship for their kids and benefits for them. E-verify and going after the employers is only a part of the solution as not all illegals are coming here to work of which I described above and going after the employers will not stop criminals and terrorists from getting through our southern border, thus the wall.
We don't need an economics expert to tell us that DACA harms citizen minority workers. We also don't need to hear how amnesty for 20 plus million illegal aliens will harm America itself.
You take a subset of the population that has been "living in the shadows", give them the ok to work they will not be taking the white collared jobs but they will grab the lower skilled jobs that have been traditionally held by minority workers.
What I don't understand is how minority voters don't see what the Democrats are planning for our future as a direct attack on them.
What the Democrats are allowing at the border and with their sanctuary cities/states is a real slap in the face to those that immigrated to America the lawful way.
What some in the black community don't seem to care about is that the Democrats are championing for the Rights of the "asylum seekers" that are fleeing violence, gangs, drugs etc etc.. while they turn their backs on black people that are living with the same fears in some of our inner cities.
If Blacks and other minorities knew what was good for them they would be running from the Democrat party.
We don't need an economics expert to tell us that DACA harms citizen minority workers. We also don't need to hear how amnesty for 20 plus million illegal aliens will harm America itself.
You take a subset of the population that has been "living in the shadows", give them the ok to work they will not be taking the white collared jobs but they will grab the lower skilled jobs that have been traditionally held by minority workers.
What I don't understand is how minority voters don't see what the Democrats are planning for our future as a direct attack on them.
What the Democrats are allowing at the border and with their sanctuary cities/states is a real slap in the face to those that immigrated to America the lawful way.
What some in the black community don't seem to care about is that the Democrats are championing for the Rights of the "asylum seekers" that are fleeing violence, gangs, drugs etc etc.. while they turn their backs on black people that are living with the same fears in some of our inner cities.
If Blacks and other minorities knew what was good for them they would be running from the Democrat party.
They don't because far too many blacks are on handouts and therefore love the socialism of the Democrats and they have also bought into the propaganda that the Republicans are racists. Part of the reason for that is that the majority of Republicans are white and they are still living in the past that most whites are still racists which isn't true.
As an African-American, It is my strong opinion that African-Americans should not fall for the bait of taking a nativist stance; a philosophy rooted in white supremacy. The notion of "country first" is highly problematic, on a whole lot of levels, with a lot of evidence.
And the notion of "they'll take our jobs" was preached to whites against African-Americans in the 30s through 60s coming to the north. Now, a faction, with the same rhetoric, wants to say to African-Americans, "the immigrants will take your jobs," and use the word "illegal" to legitimize their view! That word is a cover!
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