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Old 10-13-2021, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Opinion USA today

Liberty News (Extreme right wing bias) https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/liberty-nation/

DHS when Trump was in office they were publishing propaganda for him.

Gallup poll 60% Americans do not support the wall, 81% support making illegal immigrants who lived here for years legal.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/246455/...rder-wall.aspx

Amnesty for dreamers will happen just matter of time, 14th amendment will never change the supreme court is not going to change anything. Illegals will still be hired because it's capitalisms keep cost low, and profits high. This is the future of for the country majority agree with it. Even if they make a guest worker program won't change much as business's will still want to hire illegals cheaper.
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Old 10-14-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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"Opinion USA today"

Left bias Gallup.

You may have NOT noticed, gallop seldom provides it's methodology on how many from each party they poll much any more.

Why? Because they poll a LOT more dems then repubs and sometimes more ind then either.
Of course, because no way would 81% of equally polled Democrats and Republicans want a path to citizenship for most illegal aliens. It would at least be a 50-50 even split.

Me thinks that poster has a vested interest in illegal immigration for whatever his/her agenda is. Everything he/she desires in regards to illegal immigration including wanting to keep rewarding their kids with our birthright citizenship is anti-American. Illegals do not keep the cost of goods low either the employers only pocket the profits from these cheap, illegal workers while they pass their enormous costs on to the taxpayer to the tune of over $100 billion a year!
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Old 10-14-2021, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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I provided you links before about the fines you conveniently forgot about it ?

https://fordmurraylaw.com/potential-...ed-immigrants/

If you are found to have knowingly or negligently hired undocumented employees to work for your company, you could face severe civil and criminal penalties. You are also at risk if you discover that an employee is not authorized to work in the US and you continue their employment. First offenders face civil fines ranging from $375 to $3,200 per illegal worker.

The wall was a stupid idea hopefully Biden tears down the rest of it.
thanks for linking the info that says 1st offenders can be fined from $375 to $3,200. Do you know what might cause the difference? Here's the 2019 update to the USCIS list of fines and penalties.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2019-06745.pdf

you might find the middle of page 10 interesting:

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(A) First offense under section
274C(a)(1) through (a)(4). .....and not less than $473 and not exceeding $3,788 for each fraudulent
document or each proscribed activity described in section 274C(a)(1) through (a)(4) of the Act after November 2, 2015.

(B) First offense under section 274C(a)(5) or (a)(6). ...and not less than $400 and not exceeding $3,195 for each fraudulent document or each proscribed activity described in section 274C(a)(5) or (a)(6) of the Act
after November 2, 2015.
Furthermore, from your source:

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Becoming a multiple-offender severely compounds the potential penalties. A second-time offender will be fined between $3,200 and $6,500 per worker, while a third offense will cost you between $4,300 and $16,000 per worker.

Additionally, knowingly hiring undocumented immigrants on more than one occasion may demonstrate a pattern of illicit hiring activity that puts you at risk for criminal penalties. If you engage in a pattern of hiring undocumented immigrants, you could face criminal fines of up to $3,000 per unauthorized worker and up to 6 months in jail.

Worse yet, if you actively engage in shielding undocumented immigrants from ICE, you could be found guilty of “harboring,” which can result in up to 10 years in prison. Employers can also be held responsible if they utilize contractors who hire undocumented immigrants.
Also, on your "81% favor citizenship" from a 2019 poll, the actual quote is

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The vast majority of Americans (81%) favor allowing immigrants living illegally in the U.S. "the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time."
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Old 10-14-2021, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Boston
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if the fencing is unnecessary, why not tear down what's already there too?

Has Biden cancelled the contract to raise the fencing height around the WH? I believe that work is going on right now.
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Old 10-14-2021, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by kell490 View Post
I provided you links before about the fines you conveniently forgot about it ?

https://fordmurraylaw.com/potential-...ed-immigrants/

If you are found to have knowingly or negligently hired undocumented employees to work for your company, you could face severe civil and criminal penalties. You are also at risk if you discover that an employee is not authorized to work in the US and you continue their employment. First offenders face civil fines ranging from $375 to $3,200 per illegal worker.

The wall was a stupid idea hopefully Biden tears down the rest of it.
are you legal?
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Old 10-15-2021, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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are you legal?
Are you?
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