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Old 05-14-2024, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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So your scenario fits all or even most young adults today? Is it justification to hire illegal aliens instead? I think not!
Justification to hire illegals, yes, yes, yes, yes! Who else is going to do the dirty work, Janitorial work, landscaping, dish washing, window cleaning, working in the meat packing plants, roofing, plumbing, construction work?

When you go to the grocery store and see Chicken and pork for $10 a pound, and a sack of potatoes for $10, you'll quickly change your tune.
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Old 05-14-2024, 03:11 PM
 
Location: western NY
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That's the typical excuse of these pro-illegals.....Americans are lazy so we need illegls here to work jobs Americans won't do, ad nauseum.
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Old 05-14-2024, 03:19 PM
 
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Justification to hire illegals, yes, yes, yes, yes! Who else is going to do the dirty work, Janitorial work, landscaping, dish washing, window cleaning, working in the meat packing plants, roofing, plumbing, construction work?

When you go to the grocery store and see Chicken and pork for $10 a pound, and a sack of potatoes for $10, you'll quickly change your tune.
First off, it's BS that most Americans are too lazy to do any of those jobs for a fair wage. Who do you think were doing them before million of cheap illegals flooded our border?

Second, it's against the law to hire illegal aliens or doesn't that matter to you?

Third, prices would not go up much without these illegals as Americans would refuse to buy the products at an unreasonable cost. Those who hire them just pocket the profits and they pass little to nothing onto the consumer in the way of savings. Are you unaware that there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers? So you reference to a sack of potatoes is also BS. Many crops are automated today to.

Illegal aliens cost us over $150 billion a year so your claim that they keep costs down is also BS when you factor that in.
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Old 05-14-2024, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Why aren't they increasing LEGAL immigration to offset the declining birth rate? Or increasing child tax credits?
The agenda, due by 2030, makes it necessary to collapse the economy, and LEGAL immigration with the limits that it carries would not do this. There is no way in the world that we can sustain the horror that these illegals/fake asylum seekers have brought to our country. We couldn't and can't even house, feed and provide medical care to all of our citizens, and now millions of economic seeking illegals/fake asylum seekers will sink the ship, destroy everything that our people have worked, fought and died for.

The last thing we need are more people who cannot support the children that they have. Children are used by the poor, the illegals/fake asylum seekers for the financial benefits of having them, and having us pay to raise them, plus the bonus for illegals/fake asylum seekers "separate the children by deporting the parents", no, they the kids with them, so simple.

Again, we have a shortage of EVERYTHING, except tax sucking individuals who do not contribute to our country's well being. Send them home. Trump 2024 for any possibility of saving our country from the agenda that is trying to consume us. Review the goals of the World Economic Forum, who the members are, and their plans for the world - we MUST stop them.
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Old 05-15-2024, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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First off, it's BS that most Americans are too lazy to do any of those jobs for a fair wage. Who do you think were doing them before million of cheap illegals flooded our border?

Second, it's against the law to hire illegal aliens or doesn't that matter to you?

Third, prices would not go up much without these illegals as Americans would refuse to buy the products at an unreasonable cost. Those who hire them just pocket the profits and they pass little to nothing onto the consumer in the way of savings. Are you unaware that there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers? So you reference to a sack of potatoes is also BS. Many crops are automated today to.

Illegal aliens cost us over $150 billion a year so your claim that they keep costs down is also BS when you factor that in.
I see more to the story. White people are in a decline all over the world, they may eventually become extinct.

If these were white Caucasians coming across the border, then you'd hear: Keep the borders open?
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Old 05-15-2024, 05:41 AM
 
Location: western NY
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The agenda, due by 2030, makes it necessary to collapse the economy, and LEGAL immigration with the limits that it carries would not do this. There is no way in the world that we can sustain the horror that these illegals/fake asylum seekers have brought to our country. We couldn't and can't even house, feed and provide medical care to all of our citizens, and now millions of economic seeking illegals/fake asylum seekers will sink the ship, destroy everything that our people have worked, fought and died for.

The last thing we need are more people who cannot support the children that they have. Children are used by the poor, the illegals/fake asylum seekers for the financial benefits of having them, and having us pay to raise them, plus the bonus for illegals/fake asylum seekers "separate the children by deporting the parents", no, they the kids with them, so simple.

Again, we have a shortage of EVERYTHING, except tax sucking individuals who do not contribute to our country's well being. Send them home. Trump 2024 for any possibility of saving our country from the agenda that is trying to consume us. Review the goals of the World Economic Forum, who the members are, and their plans for the world - we MUST stop them.
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Old 05-15-2024, 05:42 AM
 
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I see more to the story. White people are in a decline all over the world, they may eventually become extinct.

If these were white Caucasians coming across the border, then you'd hear: Keep the borders open?
Yeah, just what more do you see to the story other than the facts of which is posted? You never addressed a single one of those facts. Seems like you have a vested interest in illegal immigration. Ethnic or personal ties perhaps?

What does a declining white population here in the U.S. or across the world have to do with illegal immigration? Your attempt to pull the race card is laughable. I don't care what skin color or race an illegal is they need to be deported as they are here in violation of our immigration laws and raising havoc on all of our citizens.
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Old 05-15-2024, 03:59 PM
 
Location: western NY
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Yeah, just what more do you see to the story other than the facts of which is posted? You never addressed a single one of those facts. Seems like you have a vested interest in illegal immigration. Ethnic or personal ties perhaps?

What does a declining white population here in the U.S. or across the world have to do with illegal immigration? Your attempt to pull the race card is laughable. I don't care what skin color or race an illegal is they need to be deported as they are here in violation of our immigration laws and raising havoc on all of our citizens.
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Old 05-15-2024, 05:12 PM
 
Location: In the middle of nowhere... and enjoying it
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White people are in a decline all over the world, they may eventually become extinct.
White population isn't declining worldwide, it's just that other ethnicities are increasing much faster. For example, in 1960, Nigeria's population was 44.9 million. In 2022, the population was estimated at 218.5 million. No white countries population has increased even close to that much.
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Old 05-15-2024, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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By 2070 I believe, half of all global births will be in Sub Saharan Africa. The Human population seems invariably to becoming what it started out as. Unless you strengthen borders.

Wonder what the open borders folks feel about that. And for all you pro Western capitalism hyper growth types; you will need these people by the 100’s of millions as they will be the lion share of the planet.

Western Capitalism endures and triumphs for a black African planet. Brilliant
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