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Old 11-30-2008, 06:31 PM
 
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You notice Mexico does not allow violent gangs from other nations to move into Mexico and kill Mexicans -- gang or no gang.

 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Much of this is about something much deeper than racial lines. They are nationality lines. You have a violent foreign gangs coming in an attacking and killing American citizens. The American blacks are in their own country, whether or not they belong to a gang. Gang membership does not justify the importation of more violent gangs to kill Americans.
No, but you're trying to make it more than that, right? You use a couple of isolated incidents to make something bigger of it.

Interracial homicides are very rare. It's still black on black, brown on brown for the most part.

And now you have "violent foreign gangs coming in an attacking and killing American citizens". Wow, what imagery. What sensationalism.

Violent foreign gangs like the Crips? The Bloods? 18th Street? Surenos? All made here in the U.S.A.

How many illegal members of American gangs have killed citizen members of gangs, and how is that manipulated to fit your guys' agenda? I wonder.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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No, but you're trying to make it more than that, right? You use a couple of isolated incidents to make something bigger of it.

Interracial homicides are very rare. It's still black on black, brown on brown for the most part.

And now you have "violent foreign gangs coming in an attacking and killing American citizens". Wow, what imagery. What sensationalism.

Violent foreign gangs like the Crips? The Bloods? 18th Street? Surenos? All made here in the U.S.A.

How many illegal members of American gangs have killed citizen members of gangs, and how is that manipulated to fit your guys' agenda? I wonder.
Irrelevant: one illegal immigrant gangbanger is still one too many-----------we as you alluded to have plenty of 'local talent' to deal with and put in their place.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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You notice Mexico does not allow violent gangs from other nations to move into Mexico and kill Mexicans -- gang or no gang.
I don't think any countries "allow" violent gangs in. I'm pretty sure the U.S. doesn't. Not even Mexico.

And you seem be pretty confused to think entire gangs are crossing the border, instead of a number of kids living in this country illegally moving into American gang neighborhoods and getting recruited by the local boys.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:42 PM
 
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I don't think any countries "allow" violent gangs in. I'm pretty sure the U.S. doesn't. Not even Mexico.

And you seem be pretty confused to think entire gangs are crossing the border, instead of a number of kids living in this country illegally moving into American gang neighborhoods and getting recruited by the local boys.
The Marasalva trucha gangs, MS13, routinely come over the border. In most cases they are trying to find family members who abandoned them to the streets back home. They grew up in gangs, their mothers were off chasing dollars and did not raise their children. These kids grew up and try to find long lost parents or other relatives because there's nothing much back home but violence.

Those are most definitely foreign gangs, just like many of the Mexican gangs crossing over to work for their cartels.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Pa
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No, but you're trying to make it more than that, right? You use a couple of isolated incidents to make something bigger of it.

Interracial homicides are very rare. It's still black on black, brown on brown for the most part.

And now you have "violent foreign gangs coming in an attacking and killing American citizens". Wow, what imagery. What sensationalism.

Violent foreign gangs like the Crips? The Bloods? 18th Street? Surenos? All made here in the U.S.A.

How many illegal members of American gangs have killed citizen members of gangs, and how is that manipulated to fit your guys' agenda? I wonder.
Actually the most violent most ruthlessgangs are of Russian origin.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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Oh geez, they just found 9 decapitated bodies in Tijuana. Sure, let's keep these borders as open as we possibly can!

Localizan 9 decapitados en Tijuana | Diario.com.mx: Edición Cd. Juárez
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Everyone knows MS 13 was founded in Los Angeles for protection from Black-American and Mexican-American gangs, and since spread out from the United States to Central America. Not the other way around.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:49 PM
 
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Oh geez, they just found 9 decapitated bodies in Tijuana. Sure, let's keep these borders as open as we possibly can!

Localizan 9 decapitados en Tijuana | Diario.com.mx: Edición Cd. Juárez
Oh geez! Horrible crimes only happen in third world Mexico!

Oklahoma City bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can't really be this ignorant.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:50 PM
 
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Actually the most violent most ruthlessgangs are of Russian origin.
I would not be so sure about that. There was a massacre the other day of 8 people in a restaurant in Juarez, besides a number of other executions that same day. It's generally about 12-16 murders a day in just that city.

They beheaded some guy and hung the corpse from an overpass the other week, they took some corpse and put a pigs face mask and hung his body on a window across from the fire station downtown Juarez.

The pile of 25 corpses found in a national park outside Mexico City, the 12 beheaded corpses piled up near Merida..... I doubt Russia has that.
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