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Old 02-19-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The myths have been debunked, if at all migrant workers support our economy,
Dream on.

The party is over for those losers.

I live here in the Phx area and I hear far less Spanish spoken compared to late 2007.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The myths have been debunked, if at all migrant workers support our economy,
Joke, right ? Besides all that, when did illegal aliens suddenly change into "migrant workers"? Thats somewhat like saying the "weathermen underground" were just a bunch of "social reformers" back in the 60's. Whats next ? All that stuff about cheap tomatoes. How about "the bad economy will fail if all all that cheap labor is deported". Think you could debunk us a little more? Good thing we have all that work "American's won't do" covered, right?
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Joke, right ? Besides all that, when did illegal aliens suddenly change into "migrant workers"? Thats somewhat like saying the "weathermen underground" were just a bunch of "social reformers" back in the 60's. Whats next ? All that stuff about cheap tomatoes. How about "the bad economy will fail if all all that cheap labor is deported". Think you could debunk us a little more? Good thing we have all that work "American's won't do" covered, right?
Nothing more than a desperate pro illegal fan.
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:16 AM
 
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The myths have been debunked, if at all migrant workers support our economy,
No they don't. Notice what they've done for their own countries. Nothing.

There is no way they come here to work for extremely low wages and pay their own way, pay tuition for their kids to attend our schools, they cannot afford the high cost of living in this country and manage to send billions of dollars back to Mexico every month.

The cost of living in the USA is high for Americans with an education, literacy, and legal wages, it's not possible to have the high birth rates and very low wages and make it on their own.

Besides, if they were any good at supporting an economy, they would have done so in their own beloved homelands.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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The Republicans love to bash immigrants and illegal immigrants with lines like "they get free medical care and food stamps." Of course they never let the TRUTH get in the way of politics. Here are the FACTS:

1. Illegal aliens qualify for NOTHING but emergency care in this country. If they get sick or get cancer, they are sent home to die. No chemo and no treatment is given to them at all.
2. Legal immigrants also qualify for nothing except for emergency care and immunizations for children. They must be in the country for 5 years before they qualify for ANY government program including Section 8, foodstamps, SCHIP, Medicare, Medicaid. They must be present and WORK for 10 years before they qualify for Social Security benefits of any kind. If a child of a LEGAL immigrant gets cancer and does not have PRIVATE insurance, they too are sent home to DIE and no treatment is given.
but what about all the illegals who steal ID and SS#'s and claim to be legal and slip thru the cracks.

You realise that illegals are getting organ transplants in this country for free while tax-payers die on the waiting list?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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No they don't. Notice what they've done for their own countries. Nothing.

There is no way they come here to work for extremely low wages and pay their own way, pay tuition for their kids to attend our schools, they cannot afford the high cost of living in this country and manage to send billions of dollars back to Mexico every month.

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some of them are even police officers in Milwaukee!!!!

Officer arrested; citizenship questioned - JSOnline

he was later deported but only b/c it was such a high profile case. Most aren't.

think of all the money they send home that isn't spent here to help stimulate the economy.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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The Republicans love to bash immigrants and illegal immigrants with lines like "they get free medical care and food stamps." Of course they never let the TRUTH get in the way of politics. Here are the FACTS:

1. Illegal aliens qualify for NOTHING but emergency care in this country. If they get sick or get cancer, they are sent home to die. No chemo and no treatment is given to them at all.
2. Legal immigrants also qualify for nothing except for emergency care and immunizations for children. They must be in the country for 5 years before they qualify for ANY government program including Section 8, foodstamps, SCHIP, Medicare, Medicaid. They must be present and WORK for 10 years before they qualify for Social Security benefits of any kind. If a child of a LEGAL immigrant gets cancer and does not have PRIVATE insurance, they too are sent home to DIE and no treatment is given.
They get all of the benefits like food stamps thru their anchor babies....
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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They get all of the benefits like food stamps thru their anchor babies....
They use fake SS#'s to collect state welfare. wick. tax refunds (both state and federal), free education for all thier many offspring, ad nausem. I see them standing in line (cowboy hats, boots & big silver belt buckles) at the state welfare offices everyday. They seem to drive fairly new pick ups or big suvs & have countless kids in tow. Must be a money making deal. Go figure.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Your sister-in-law may be hard working, the kids might be great kids, but there really is a limit to how many people can come here and be provided for by the taxpayers. There's a limit -- and right now immigration is out-of-control. There are far too many who need and far too few us who must provide for their every need.

$9 an hour to supprt 3 children isn't feasible in this country, we have an extremely high cost of living here. That's one of the problems with rampant immigration. We're destroying our economy and our standard of living very quickly.
This reminds me of the Octo-Mom and the theme of responsibility. Why do people think it is ok to keep letting people into the US who can't even afford to take care of themselves less the people they are bringing with them.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:37 PM
 
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if there is one anchor baby in the family, the entire family reaps benefits. If the anchor is eligible for section 8 housing, the entire family is placed in an appropriate apartment. Appropriate by US standards, that is; meaning there must be an adequate number of bedrooms and a specific amount of living space per person. Conceivably, a family of 9 (8 illegals and one anchor baby) could end up in a good sized apartment. Nice, huh?
"Assistance for a Section 8 voucher tenancy or over-FMR tenancy. For a tenancy under the voucher program or for an over-FMR tenancy under the certificate program, the PHA must prorate the family's assistance as follows:

(i) Step 1. Determine the amount of the pre-proration housing assistance payment. (Annual income includes income of all family members, including any family member who has not established eligible immigration status.)

(ii) Step 2. Multiply the amount determined in paragraph (c)(2)(i), (Step 1) by a fraction for which: (A) The numerator is the number of family members who have established eligible immigration status; and (B) The denominator is the total number of family members.

(iii) Prorated housing assistance. The amount determined in paragraph (c)(2)(ii), (Step 2) is the prorated housing assistance payment for a mixed family.

(iv) No effect on rent to owner. Proration of the housing assistance payment does not affect rent to owner. The family must pay the portion of rent to owner not covered by the prorated housing assistance payment." (24 C.F.R. § 5.520(c)(2))

http://cfr.vlex.com/vid/5-520-prorat...tance-19925684

It's pretty much the same deal with means-tested federal programs (TANF, Medicaid, CHIP, SSI, and SNAP (formerly food stamps)).
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