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that makes perfect sense and that is why our congress will not do it.....
Lol so true Floridasandy. So true. Unfortunately we are not super conglomerates that hold the politicians in thrall, or servitude, you choose which one you want to say lol.
9NEWS.com | Colorado's Online News Leader | Farming jobs being picked clean by U.S. residents (http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=118219&catid=339 - broken link)
LAFAYETTE - It is hot, there is no shade from the unforgiving Colorado sun, other than the hats that protect their faces.
Three people are helping Jason Condon and the Isabelle Farm grow organic radishes, lettuce, tomatoes and potatoes for sale mainly here, in Colorado.
Cory loves this job, a job that's becoming increasingly competitive.
Farmers can use what's called the H-2A program to recruit foreign workers to do temporary or seasonal work here in the U.S.
From July to September of 2008, there were 171 H2-A jobs posted. Thirty-nine Americans applied for those positions.
The very next quarter, in the final three months of 2008, 887 Americans applied for the 981 H-2A available. And as unemployment jumped at the beginning of 2009, so did applications from Americans; 1,799 applied for 726 jobs. That means instead of the jobs being filled by foreign or migrant workers, they are mostly going to U.S. residents.
Condon posted two farm hand positions on Craigslist in April. He said he had to turn people away. Thirty-eight people applied.
"We had people with doctorates, we had people with masters degrees we had people with all sorts of different career backgrounds," he said. "Carpenters, people who've worked on farms in other countries, people who have managed museums, all sorts of things you would never suspect you would find on a farm labor application."
"Growing food for people is kind of a powerful thing and once you kind of do it, it's surprisingly addictive," he said.
Obama and Bush have to eat their famous words against American workers since we always were willing to do the work.
But what happens when those Americans are no longer desperate, and providing food and shelter for their family is not threatened. Will they still be willing to do even the most back breaking work? Or will they prefer to work in their original jobs leaving the most back breaking jobs vacant?
Those Americans who lost decent jobs will return to their chosen field if they can; they will prefer it. They will leave the back breaking jobs to those who once held them: There will always be Americans that will take the back breaking jobs. Americans just want to earn a decent wage and work by a set of rules fair to all. We will always have under-educated Americans who want to work wherever they can find a decent job with decent wages. We will always have American teens who want to work. I get so sick of hearing people say that our American teens are too lazy to work. Teens today can't find work because all the jobs they once held are now in the hands of illegals who will work for far less. I live in a small town where all the fast food and hotel jobs are being done by teens and young adults who speak English. (I assume they are Americans.) When I lived in the big city I saw and heard mostly Spanish speaking people in both areas. I know the teens here are happy to have any job. I've talked to a few of them who have online friends unemployed all around the country. Teens everywhere want to work for their spending money. Sadly, too many of their jobs have been lost to the low balling illegal scabs.
Those Americans who lost decent jobs will return to their chosen field if they can; they will prefer it. They will leave the back breaking jobs to those who once held them: There will always be Americans that will take the back breaking jobs. Americans just want to earn a decent wage and work by a set of rules fair to all. We will always have under-educated Americans who want to work wherever they can find a decent job with decent wages. We will always have American teens who want to work. I get so sick of hearing people say that our American teens are too lazy to work. Teens today can't find work because all the jobs they once held are now in the hands of illegals who will work for far less. I live in a small town where all the fast food and hotel jobs are being done by teens and young adults who speak English. (I assume they are Americans.) When I lived in the big city I saw and heard mostly Spanish speaking people in both areas. I know the teens here are happy to have any job. I've talked to a few of them who have online friends unemployed all around the country. Teens everywhere want to work for their spending money. Sadly, too many of their jobs have been lost to the low balling illegal scabs.
So then, how can the teens cannot find jobs to support their spending habits? You say low balling illegal scabs are taking them. So an IA who has a family to support can afford to take a lower wage than a teen, who wants disposable income? Are they not willing to take minimum wage for un-skilled labor? Since most IA's do get paid above minimum wage.
In the article the same person said that they were not able to fill their positions. They had 171 positions and only 39 applicants. Where are all those teens that you speak of? Or those Americans that are willing to do the back breaking jobs?
Also, teens should be at school not working anyways. Working at a McDonald's for minimum wage is no place for a teen, unless they are on vacations or school is out.
So then, how can the teens cannot find jobs to support their spending habits? You say low balling illegal scabs are taking them. So an IA who has a family to support can afford to take a lower wage than a teen, who wants disposable income? Are they not willing to take minimum wage for un-skilled labor? Since most IA's do get paid above minimum wage.
In the article the same person said that they were not able to fill their positions. They had 171 positions and only 39 applicants. Where are all those teens that you speak of? Or those Americans that are willing to do the back breaking jobs?
Also, teens should be at school not working anyways. Working at a McDonald's for minimum wage is no place for a teen, unless they are on vacations or school is out.
I think he was referring more to retail oriented jobs for teens. And no, there is no IA who deserves a job over an American who is willing to work. All available jobs should go to Americans first, visa holding immigrants second, IA's never.
And as far as your quote of "They had 171 positions and only 39 applicants. Where are all those teens that you speak of? Or those Americans that are willing to do the back breaking jobs?", did you bother to read the next paragraph?
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The very next quarter, in the final three months of 2008, 887 Americans applied for the 981 H-2A available. And as unemployment jumped at the beginning of 2009, so did applications from Americans; 1,799 applied for 726 jobs. That means instead of the jobs being filled by foreign or migrant workers, they are mostly going to U.S. residents
THERE THEY ARE! They are currently accepting the pitiful depressed wages because they're doing what they have to so they can support their families. Get rid of the illegals, pay a decent wage, and Americans will continue to fill these jobs even after the economy recovers. Having any illegals holding jobs in today's economy is a slap in the face to every American who is out of work wondering how they're going to provide for their family. Problem is the government, greedy businesses, IA's, and people like you don't give a crap about that American.
So then, how can the teens cannot find jobs to support their spending habits? You say low balling illegal scabs are taking them. So an IA who has a family to support can afford to take a lower wage than a teen, who wants disposable income? Are they not willing to take minimum wage for un-skilled labor? Since most IA's do get paid above minimum wage.
In the article the same person said that they were not able to fill their positions. They had 171 positions and only 39 applicants. Where are all those teens that you speak of? Or those Americans that are willing to do the back breaking jobs?
Also, teens should be at school not working anyways. Working at a McDonald's for minimum wage is no place for a teen, unless they are on vacations or school is out.
In a perfect world, many teens would be able to ONLY focus on school but the fact is that many teens seek to join the workforce at a young age to save money for college because many of their parents cannot afford the high cost of tuition..
171 positions and 39 applicants? Uh.. Not in this economy.. Those stats are reversed more like 39 positions and 871 applicants..
In a perfect world, many teens would be able to ONLY focus on school but the fact is that many teens seek to join the workforce at a young age to save money for college because many of their parents cannot afford the high cost of tuition..
171 positions and 39 applicants? Uh.. Not in this economy.. Those stats are reversed more like 39 positions and 871 applicants..
do you think we are going to stay in this economy forever? What are these people who need workers supposed to do once it turns around, and the normal 39 applicants for 177 jobs comes back. Go out o business, because they can no longer afford to hire workers?
do you think we are going to stay in this economy forever? What are these people who need workers supposed to do once it turns around, and the normal 39 applicants for 177 jobs comes back. Go out o business, because they can no longer afford to hire workers?
Get rid of the illegals, wages go up. Americans are willing to work for a livable wage. Wow, what a concept!
Get rid of the illegals, wages go up. Americans are willing to work for a livable wage. Wow, what a concept!
You left out the part when, employers cannot compete with foreign goods, go out of business or move their operations to somewhere more afordable and the Americans who are willing to work for livable wage are now unemployed yet again, except there are no IA's to blame it on. Wow, what a concept? indeed.
do you think we are going to stay in this economy forever? What are these people who need workers supposed to do once it turns around, and the normal 39 applicants for 177 jobs comes back. Go out o business, because they can no longer afford to hire workers?
Nope then companies that hire will just have to be more "creative" and more competitive in wages and benefits.. Maybe creative in the form of hiring Prison inmates and U.S. citizens that are welfare recipients to pick crops, etc..
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