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Old 10-25-2009, 08:14 PM
 
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The cartels benefit immensely from a wide open border and the lack of enforcement of immigration laws. Anyone can come over that border for any reason at all, all the people coming over illegally do not respect the laws of the USA, they will quickly break any law that does not convenience them. It's a rare illegal that simply breaks the one law of coming here illegally, they will break labor laws, readily commit felony document fraud, drive without licenses and insurance, purchase stolen identifications.

Many illegals are running drugs, many illegals use the illegal immigrant communities established to hide in, provide them a place to stay and to recruit drug dealers to get their drugs sold and distributed. Many drug traffickers and drug runners live with family members that aren't running drugs and many drugs are coming over through the same smuggling rings that smuggle in humans and weapons back to Mexico. Often it's the anchor babies of illegals bringing the crystal meth and marijuana to the middle schools and high schools to deal between class.

Without massive and unlimited illegal border crossing, the drug cartels will have a much more difficult time especially if they also crack down on all the legal crossing by Mexican truck and bus drivers and commuters who are bringing in drugs.

The only way to shake the control of the border from drug cartels is for the government to do it's job and secure it.
Interesting. Sure is rare they break only one law of being here illegally, I've first hand experience of several illegals breaking different laws, unfortunately.

The anchor babies bringing drugs into schools has got to stop--they won't even stop jail employees from bringing drugs into jails with tight security, they let it happen, even though drugs don't get on planes with a dog or two and are using drug scanners in some places like Ireland now. Need to vote out all the government enablers.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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Meth consumption is down here in the USA: I live here in Arizona where we had a huge problem with that drug----------Meth is following crack cocaine downward in popularity. The rep of both illegal drugs is they are too damn dangerous.
That is good to hear, may meth dissappear along with cocaine--both extremely dangerous. Experts want to eliminate one ingredient needed to make pseudoephedrine for meth in the world's super labs, then it could not be replicated (too complicated they say).
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:52 PM
 
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Meth consumption is down here in the USA: I live here in Arizona where we had a huge problem with that drug----------Meth is following crack cocaine downward in popularity. The rep of both illegal drugs is they are too damn dangerous.
Crystal meth use is at an all time high in the united states, production has decreased significantly because our home grown dealers figured that it was easier to manufacture abroad and import the finished product, united states consumes over 90% of the crystal meth produced, it is tragically
endemic in the poor communities of the appalachians, a situation that has aggravated the dental higine there, now with toothless young and adolescent children, it is very tragic, the most important matter in the US, now is to improve family values, and somehow help decrease the drug use which is destroying our society, to spend all our time whining about the migrant workers in the usa, is just a wasted effort......
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:53 AM
 
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Crystal meth use is at an all time high in the united states, production has decreased significantly because our home grown dealers figured that it was easier to manufacture abroad and import the finished product, united states consumes over 90% of the crystal meth produced, it is tragically
endemic in the poor communities of the appalachians, a situation that has aggravated the dental higine there, now with toothless young and adolescent children, it is very tragic, the most important matter in the US, now is to improve family values, and somehow help decrease the drug use which is destroying our society, to spend all our time whining about the migrant workers in the usa, is just a wasted effort......
It is never a wasted effort to address "all" of the things destroying our society and one of them are illegal aliens stealing our jobs and tax benefits along with working under fake or stolen I.D.'s which is a felony. Another thing that is destroying our society is this massive increase in our population growth and the dilution of our culture by those here illegally being from mostly one ethnic group. All of the above will be devasting to our country down the road if we don't address this problem.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:11 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There should be a bounty, on the heads of illegals here in America.
Instead, they have more rights than any American citizen.

That's messed up!
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:17 PM
 
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Crystal meth use is at an all time high in the united states, production has decreased significantly because our home grown dealers figured that it was easier to manufacture abroad and import the finished product, united states consumes over 90% of the crystal meth produced, it is tragically
endemic in the poor communities of the appalachians, a situation that has aggravated the dental higine there, now with toothless young and adolescent children, it is very tragic, the most important matter in the US, now is to improve family values, and somehow help decrease the drug use which is destroying our society, to spend all our time whining about the migrant workers in the usa, is just a wasted effort......
"Production has decreased significantly because our home grown dealers figured that it was easier to manufacture abroad and import the finished product."

To be clear, home grown dealers are not producing Meth here nor in Mexico, now. Almost 100% of meth in US comes from Mexico, produced by Mexican drug cartels in Mexico who run back and forth across the border; CNN.

If you look on the DEA site for each state's drug situation, you will see it repeated that Mexican drug cartels are controlling the meth trade in US, along with cocaine, heroin and marijuana. My thread question here has been answered that Familia Cartel who sell most of meth in the US are Mexican "illegals", not legals or Americans.

As you said drugs are destroying our society, but you don't place blame on the real perpetrators. Drug use anywhere will not be stopped as long as drug dealers are around in large numbers luring children into addiction. Meth being highly addictive and brain damaging, the same for cocaine. In the US, before the drug dealers came around there were not large drug epidemics. Family values are the most important matter in the US as you said, but even in the best of families we are up against big drug cartels who aim to destroy our most innocent and gullible for greed, and the Familia Cartel who also aims to destroy our whole society by purposely selling the most meth to the US and only a small amout to Mexico because they know it's the most destructive drug of all; CNN.

Secure borders and border vehicle traffic, stop cartels and all illegals from crossing into America! Save America!

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Old 10-27-2009, 06:19 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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drug use which is destroying our society
Alcohol has destroyed many things.
It is the most used and abused drug made by mankind.
Look what happened when it was outlawed. We had prohibition. Had being the key word there. What happened with prohibition, is now seen with illegal recreational drugs, other than alcohol. You have massive people killing people over the control of the market.
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:56 AM
 
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Alcohol has destroyed many things.
It is the most used and abused drug made by mankind.
Look what happened when it was outlawed. We had prohibition. Had being the key word there. What happened with prohibition, is now seen with illegal recreational drugs, other than alcohol. You have massive people killing people over the control of the market.
Meth must always remain illegal-------------it is that dangerous. Marijuana; OTOH, should be legalized IMHO. The regulatory machinery is already in place i.e. smoking regulations and ATF. Simply set up THC limits for DUI and call it good.

Last edited by ArizonaBear; 10-27-2009 at 08:21 AM.. Reason: I meant THC, not BAC for the threshold of intoxication
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Meth can be made in any household.
My older sister got tied up in that crap.
It is some nasty stuff.


There probably is some coming across our southern border, but the majority is made right in hometown USA. It is too easy to produce in untraceable small quantities. It is the greedy, that try to produce mass amounts, and blow themselves up or get caught, as the fumes are traceable.
When any drug is legal, it is out in the open and you know who is doing what, as opposed to behind closed and lock doors, in a secret society.
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Meth can be made in any household.
My older sister got tied up in that crap.
It is some nasty stuff.


There probably is some coming across our southern border, but the majority is made right in hometown USA. It is too easy to produce in untraceable small quantities. It is the greedy, that try to produce mass amounts, and blow themselves up or get caught, as the fumes are traceable.
When any drug is legal, it is out in the open and you know who is doing what, as opposed to behind closed and lock doors, in a secret society.
We will have to agree to disagree here concerning the legality of Meth.
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