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<<"My officers can't prevent or solve crimes if victims or witnesses are unwilling to talk to us because of the fear of being deported," Bratton said >>
How does he explain the same situation in black neighborhoods? For the most part, They don't cooperate with police either, and they certainly have no fear of being deported. I contend the victims, and witnesses, are more afraid of retaliation by gangs, and drug dealers, than they are of being deported.
I doubt very much if the people standing around watching the girl being raped at Richmond High School didn't call 911 because they were afraid of being deported. Most of them probably aren't illegal aliens, but just don't want to be involved with, or seen talking to, the police.
<<"My officers can't prevent or solve crimes if victims or witnesses are unwilling to talk to us because of the fear of being deported," Bratton said >>
How does he explain the same situation in black neighborhoods? For the most part, They don't cooperate with police either, and they certainly have no fear of being deported. I contend the victims, and witnesses, are more afraid of retaliation by gangs, and drug dealers, than they are of being deported.
I doubt very much if the people standing around watching the girl being raped at Richmond High School didn't call 911 because they were afraid of being deported. Most of them probably aren't illegal aliens, but just don't want to be involved with, or seen talking to, the police.
Spot-on! Refusing to enforce our immigration laws will not encourage witnesses to contact police. It’s just another ploy to facilitate the illegal cheap labor industry. Apparently they think we are stupid.
"My officers can't prevent or solve crimes if victims or witnesses are unwilling to talk to us because of the fear of being deported,"
Crimes were lower when they were in hiding. Everything is cool now, and no fears, so their little communities in the Sanctuary Cities, look and act like Juarez.
read it. its very clear. the police dont act as border agents. they do not initiate contact with the purpose of obtaining the suspects citizenship, if it later comes out, well so be it. thats all it says. they can not act as border agents. that does not mean that this wont be found out down the line...
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Originally Posted by Benicar
Does this policy supersede the sanctuary city Special Order 40?
LAPD Special Order 40 | Judicial Watch (http://www.judicialwatch.org/LAPD-special-order-40 - broken link)
there are multiple reasons as to why victims or witnesses dont come forward. retaliation being one of them.
this policy makes sense. it goes at ONE of the factors affecting community involvment in crime solving. there are other tactics and policies used to combat the phenomena of "no snitchin", bystander complex (indifference), or fear of retaliation.
of all the factors that work against effective policing of our streets, this policy seeks to solve one of those. it does in fact make it easier to report crime. the same way wintess protection programs provide some form of safeguard to those willing to testify against perps...
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Originally Posted by Jayarcy
<<"My officers can't prevent or solve crimes if victims or witnesses are unwilling to talk to us because of the fear of being deported," Bratton said >>
How does he explain the same situation in black neighborhoods? For the most part, They don't cooperate with police either, and they certainly have no fear of being deported. I contend the victims, and witnesses, are more afraid of retaliation by gangs, and drug dealers, than they are of being deported.
I doubt very much if the people standing around watching the girl being raped at Richmond High School didn't call 911 because they were afraid of being deported. Most of them probably aren't illegal aliens, but just don't want to be involved with, or seen talking to, the police.
read it. its very clear. the police dont act as border agents. they do not initiate contact with the purpose of obtaining the suspects citizenship, if it later comes out, well so be it. thats all it says. they can not act as border agents. that does not mean that this wont be found out down the line...
They don’t need to act as border agents -- they simply need to enforce ALL laws. When they ignore illegal aliens, they in fact ignore our laws. An illegal shouldn’t have to walk around carrying an AK-47 to warrant apprehension and deportation. This is beyond ridiculous.
there are multiple reasons as to why victims or witnesses dont come forward. retaliation being one of them.
this policy makes sense. it goes at ONE of the factors affecting community involvment in crime solving. there are other tactics and policies used to combat the phenomena of "no snitchin", bystander complex (indifference), or fear of retaliation.
of all the factors that work against effective policing of our streets, this policy seeks to solve one of those. it does in fact make it easier to report crime. the same way wintess protection programs provide some form of safeguard to those willing to testify against perps...
I don’t believe anyone would choose death over deportation. In Virginia, MS-13 viciously murdered a pregnant girl who was a member of their gang, because they discovered she had spoken with police. She wasn’t concerned about deportation, and where is she now? We simply need to enforce our laws, and send them all back.
They don’t need to act as border agents -- they simply need to enforce ALL laws. When they ignore illegal aliens, they in fact ignore our laws. An illegal shouldn’t have to walk around carrying an AK-47 to warrant apprehension and deportation. This is beyond ridiculous.
Absolutely! Example, I go fishing at a local pier and the only ones getting their licensed check are the people that speak English properly displaying their licenses. It's a complete double standard with two sets of laws.
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