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Old 11-13-2009, 11:50 AM
 
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Yes, I believe people DO receive benefits individually. A mother has one child and is on welfare...she gets XX dollars. If she has a second or third the number of dollars increases, as does the amount of food stamps.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not on welfare.

Everyone living in the household receives the welfare/food stamp benefit.

It equals almost 100 million dollars a year out of taxpayers pockets to take care of the illegals. That's $100 million that could be going to our schools or another worthy cause. And it's coming out of MY POCKET!
No people don't. When my dad graduated from his masters program, he was on foodstamps and welfare (yeah poor college grad!!! Good thing I was not born yet, lol). It was NOT on an individual basis. Again, that is on a per household basis. $800 a month (I think) is not really much to cover a cost of a new baby. It doesn't serve to incentivize having more children, nor does it.

The main issue is that those with less education tend to have more children. Though my dad was poor immediately out of college (I guess like father like son), he had only child. Monetarily poor, yet socially middle class (college education). If we can expand education and thus provide more opportunities, then it WILL decrease relience on social services. A UCSB study illustrated this point.

As for the whole 10 family in a house thing, this is not ALWAYS the case. In fact, most likely, it's the exception. It's kind of hard to confirm in either direction, however, if you look at the new immigrant population you can extrapolate and find that most live with one family per household.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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No people don't. When my dad graduated from his masters program, he was on foodstamps and welfare (yeah poor college grad!!! Good thing I was not born yet, lol). It was NOT on an individual basis. Again, that is on a per household basis. $800 a month (I think) is not really much to cover a cost of a new baby. It doesn't serve to incentivize having more children, nor does it.

The main issue is that those with less education tend to have more children. Though my dad was poor immediately out of college (I guess like father like son), he had only child. Monetarily poor, yet socially middle class (college education). If we can expand education and thus provide more opportunities, then it WILL decrease relience on social services. A UCSB study illustrated this point.

As for the whole 10 family in a house thing, this is not ALWAYS the case. In fact, most likely, it's the exception. It's kind of hard to confirm in either direction, however, if you look at the new immigrant population you can extrapolate and find that most live with one family per household.
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Welfare payments are part of welfare benefits are provided by state governments and are regulated by the SRS programs as determined by each state government. Who can receive these welfare benefits is determined by a number of eligibility requirements which include:

•If anyone in the household is pregnant.
•Household gross income for the month.
•If there are migrant or seasonal workers in the home.
•How much the rent or mortgage payments are for the household.
•How much the utility bills are for the household.
•Any other necessary and required living expenses.
•Individual gross incomes for each family member.
•Actual available cash on hand for the household including checking and savings accounts.
•Whether any other benefits are being received in the home.
•If there are any disabled or infirmed persons in the home.
•If any family members live outside the home.
•Any criminal convictions within the home.
US Welfare System - Help for US Citizens
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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Which is more or less along the lines I was stating...
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Old 11-13-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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No, I'm right about this...According to the CIS, roughly 20% of illegal Mexican households are on welfare. 8% on foodstamps, 1.9% for subsidized housing (vs. 4.2% for native born Americans)...so the VAST majority are not using welfare. This is from a HIGHLY anti-immigration source.

Don't know how the SMALL minority of people obtain said benefits. The largest benefit used was subsidized school lunches at 37%.
The largest benefit being abused by Illegal Aliens is the school system via the 14th amendment. That alone accounts for billions of dollars.

Just by showing up they have already gamed the system.
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