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Is this reasoning logical or do we have more enimies than just the democrats?
“If we had done that right, the bill would have been extremely unlikely [to pass], if we’d brought up the illegal immigration motion to recommit,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), ranking member on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security and International Law. “That would have been the coup de grace. It would have killed the bill.”
Is this reasoning logical or do we have more enimies than just the democrats?
“If we had done that right, the bill would have been extremely unlikely [to pass], if we’d brought up the illegal immigration motion to recommit,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), ranking member on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security and International Law. “That would have been the coup de grace. It would have killed the bill.”
Politicians like to bury special interest items deep in these bills. Clinton was talking about it this morning and admitted that the entire bills usually don't get read.
Illegal immigrants are excluded. What's interesting is that the Republican Party is using illegal immigrants to stop healthcare reform. This is a classic example how fear is used to push one's personal agenda. The public becomes galvanized on stopping healthcare reform due to the false statement that illegal immigrants will come in droves for healthcare. Thus, corporate interests win.
Illegal immigrants are excluded. What's interesting is that the Republican Party is using illegal immigrants to stop healthcare reform. This is a classic example how fear is used to push one's personal agenda. The public becomes galvanized on stopping healthcare reform due to the false statement that illegal immigrants will come in droves for healthcare. Thus, corporate interests win.
You didn’t answer my question on another thread. I reiterate. If a bill excludes a group, yet has no provisions to prevent them from being included, are they actually excluded?
You didn’t answer my question on another thread. I reiterate. If a bill excludes a group, yet has no provisions to prevent them from being included, are they actually excluded?
You didn’t answer my question on another thread. I reiterate. If a bill excludes a group, yet has no provisions to prevent them from being included, are they actually excluded?
BTW there are provisions. Documentation must be provided.
Which “previous” post? Please indicate, because I have yet to see a response. There are NO provisions. The pro-illegals fought to exclude a verification requirement. As a matter of fact, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus threatened to vote against the bill if it included an immigration verification. I wonder why.
So tell me, what “documentation” are you referring to? Could it be the same documentation illegals use to obtain employment -- stolen/fake SSNs? Please.
Which “previous” post? Please indicate, because I have yet to see a response. There are NO provisions. The pro-illegals fought to exclude a verification requirement. As a matter of fact, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus threatened to vote against the bill if it included an immigration verification. I wonder why.
So tell me, what “documentation” are you referring to? Could it be the same documentation illegals use to obtain employment -- stolen/fake SSNs? Please.
Yet in one reincarnation of the bill there is a provision. Please remember that Democrats are more concerning about the Republicans (whose fear borders on insanity on this point).
The interesting thing is that this a paid for public option. Meaning you must pay premiums. Personally, I don't think that you should establish legality for a product. Since it is YOUR money that you are spending.
Shouldn't anyone who is able to pay be able to obtain health insurance (regardless of legality)?
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