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We want to create another inept gov bureau to oversee amnestied illegal border jumpers? Give me a break. La Racist would complain that it was unfair for amnestied illegal border jumpers to have to work to pay off their back taxes so the hispandering Democratic politicians who amnestied these illegals would climb all over themselves to figure out someway to forgive back taxes for amnestied border jumpers to keep them solidly voting Democratic. Really dumb impractical ridiculous idea.
Well what is your idea? They arent leaving and they know it. Some even dare us to try and make them leave.Things will get worse if we do let them continue the same old same old. Make them pay if they stay and all of them are planning to stay but few plan to pay a stinkin thing. To them this is just north mexico.
Well what is your idea? They arent leaving and they know it. Some even dare us to try and make them leave.Things will get worse if we do let them continue the same old same old. Make them pay if they stay and all of them are planning to stay but few plan to pay a stinkin thing. To them this is just north mexico.
I’m sorry, but your plan simply won’t work. You also haven’t given us your strategy for dealing with the crimes they’ve committed. We don’t reward lawbreakers; and allowing them to remain in this country and pay a lousy fine, is in fact rewarding them for violating our laws.
The simple solution is to secure our borders, enforce our laws, and deny them ANY tax-funded benefits. If they can’t work, and can’t receive government assistance, they will leave. It really is that simple.
Have you guys been hitting the Tequila a tad much .
The Mexican gov could give a big rats but less what anyone does with them much less pay
Jump the border into Mexico see where you end up if they don't shoot you .
You will be calling someone to pay them to turn you loose or they will toss you back .
Yes, too many holiday spirits I think.
The illegals insist that with amnesty they are given "family reunification" which means they can start bringing in all the relatives they left behind, children they haven't seen in years, elderly parents wanting a more comfortable retirement and free health care here.
The illegals will no longer be able to work those illegal jobs where the employers ignore wage and labor laws and fail to pay legal minimum wage and overtime pay. They will be dumped by these employers and can either see legal jobs that Americans hold, or go on welfare.
Well what is your idea? They arent leaving and they know it. Some even dare us to try and make them leave.Things will get worse if we do let them continue the same old same old. Make them pay if they stay and all of them are planning to stay but few plan to pay a stinkin thing. To them this is just north mexico.
They aren't leaving as long as it's very easy to stay and break whatever laws they feel like breaking. The whole problem is that there are plenty of laws that would deal with this problem but the laws aren't enforced.
It's also time to change the anchor baby route where the illegals come over 8 or 9 months pregnant, just in time to give birth and then expect lifelong welfare handouts and the easy route around the laws.
If illegals were to start paying taxes like Americans, with the low wages they will still have to accept, how can they continue sending hundreds of dollars out of the country every month to support the families they left behind in the old country? Either they bring the many family members currently living on remittances or abandon them altogether if they don't return home.
And the current employers of illegals aren't about to pay legal wages to the cheap live-in nannies, landscapers and so on. They'll just find new illegals to hire and do those lowly hard work jobs no Americans or Amnestied want to do.
I’m sorry, but your plan simply won’t work. You also haven’t given us your strategy for dealing with the crimes they’ve committed. We don’t reward lawbreakers; and allowing them to remain in this country and pay a lousy fine, is in fact rewarding them for violating our laws.
The simple solution is to secure our borders, enforce our laws, and deny them ANY tax-funded benefits. If they can’t work, and can’t receive government assistance, they will leave. It really is that simple.
Judging by where I live (Arizona); illegals are disappearing as we speak.
I’m sorry, but your plan simply won’t work. You also haven’t given us your strategy for dealing with the crimes they’ve committed. We don’t reward lawbreakers; and allowing them to remain in this country and pay a lousy fine, is in fact rewarding them for violating our laws.
The simple solution is to secure our borders, enforce our laws, and deny them ANY tax-funded benefits. If they can’t work, and can’t receive government assistance, they will leave. It really is that simple.
I agree but the enforce our laws part would require doing it at gun point and thats not going to happen and the illegals know it. We have plenty of folks who would be more than happy to enforce our immigration laws at gun point too but letting them do it isnt going to happen either.......so what do we do?
I agree but the enforce our laws part would require doing it at gun point and thats not going to happen and the illegals know it. We have plenty of folks who would be more than happy to enforce our immigration laws at gun point too but letting them do it isnt going to happen either.......so what do we do?
E-Verify is already working wonders; remember we have already 'lost' over 1 million of those losers from Mexico, etc. since 2007. Another way to dislodge 'em is to cancel birthright citizenship for Anchor Babies born after a certain date.
I agree but the enforce our laws part would require doing it at gun point and thats not going to happen and the illegals know it. We have plenty of folks who would be more than happy to enforce our immigration laws at gun point too but letting them do it isnt going to happen either.......so what do we do?
Giving amnesty would open some real big cans of worms. It's better to do nothing than do that. Many illegals are perfectly happy with the status quo but they have to keep their noses a little clean or they risk getting caught and deported. If they act up, then home they can go but if given amnesty then the big family chain migration will pick up in a huge way and we have no jobs. Amnesty will invite a big rush to the border, there are many who have lived here in the past and many who never lived here ever who will jump at the chance to get their easy American citizenship and will arrive here as soon as the amnesty is announced to cash in on it.
You have to accept that even with good enforcement of our laws, not all illegals will be found and returned home. There's no way to get it 100% but doing that isn't necessary. DUI laws don't get 100% of drunk drivers off the roads but they do get some. Shoplifting enforcement doesn't eliminate 100% of shoplifting but we keep the laws and still prosecute those that are caught.
Amnesty would also be a huge problem because many of the illegals are working in jobs only because they accept illegal pay and what becomes of many who would be now legal but unemployed and unemployable?
We would have an enormous problem with the many family members arriving to join their newly amnestied relatives here. Many elderly family members also will be showing up. It's safe to say that many millions of people would be coming not only to get in on the amnesty but for the "family reunification" portion of the amnesty. Our economy is already in a big mess and what would we do with very possibly 100 million more people showing up overnight?
No one is saying to do door-to-door searches but some workplace audits and changing the welfare laws so that illegals can't come here and expect welfare handouts would go a long way. Otherwise, deport them as they make their presence known. When they are picked up for no drivers license, a DUI, shoplifting, they can be deported. When employers are fined for hiring illegals, there will be less incentive to be here illegally.
Giving amnesty would open some real big cans of worms. It's better to do nothing than do that. Many illegals are perfectly happy with the status quo but they have to keep their noses a little clean or they risk getting caught and deported. If they act up, then home they can go but if given amnesty then the big family chain migration will pick up in a huge way and we have no jobs. Amnesty will invite a big rush to the border, there are many who have lived here in the past and many who never lived here ever who will jump at the chance to get their easy American citizenship and will arrive here as soon as the amnesty is announced to cash in on it.
You have to accept that even with good enforcement of our laws, not all illegals will be found and returned home. There's no way to get it 100% but doing that isn't necessary. DUI laws don't get 100% of drunk drivers off the roads but they do get some. Shoplifting enforcement doesn't eliminate 100% of shoplifting but we keep the laws and still prosecute those that are caught.
Amnesty would also be a huge problem because many of the illegals are working in jobs only because they accept illegal pay and what becomes of many who would be now legal but unemployed and unemployable?
We would have an enormous problem with the many family members arriving to join their newly amnestied relatives here. Many elderly family members also will be showing up. It's safe to say that many millions of people would be coming not only to get in on the amnesty but for the "family reunification" portion of the amnesty. Our economy is already in a big mess and what would we do with very possibly 100 million more people showing up overnight?
No one is saying to do door-to-door searches but some workplace audits and changing the welfare laws so that illegals can't come here and expect welfare handouts would go a long way. Otherwise, deport them as they make their presence known. When they are picked up for no drivers license, a DUI, shoplifting, they can be deported. When employers are fined for hiring illegals, there will be less incentive to be here illegally.
And I repeat: still another very eloquent and to the point post from that 'Wise Old Dog', malamute.
Well what is your idea? They arent leaving and they know it. Some even dare us to try and make them leave.Things will get worse if we do let them continue the same old same old. Make them pay if they stay and all of them are planning to stay but few plan to pay a stinkin thing. To them this is just north mexico.
I said that the status quo was infinitely better than amnestying these illegal border jumpers, not that that was what we should do. Enforcement of universal new tough on illegals laws/tough on the criminal employers of illegals laws would be the solution. This was proven by the mass exodus of illegals in Oklahoma and arizona when these laws were enacted. Make it impossible for illegals to work in the US or receive welfare and the MAJORITY of illegals will self deport themselves poste haste. Enacting these laws today is not possible because the amnesty Democrats control Congress. Amnesty Democrats are blatantly hispandering to a whole new voter bloc of illegals if they could just get them amnestied. In the 2010 elections, however, it is expected that the ranks of the amnesty Democrats and Rino Republicans will be seriously thinned as the country swings back to it's normal center right position, hastened, no doubt, by the far left wing policies of our own inept community organizer in chief.
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