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Old 03-14-2010, 04:30 PM
 
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Do you leave the Keys in your car? I dont leave the keys in my truck...Im funny that way.

maybe you should expand you fear to people...not just aliens.
If you leave the keys in your car and it becomes stolen, yes you were negligent but the laws still state that the car thief committed a crime.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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If you leave the keys in your car and it becomes stolen, yes you were negligent but the laws still state that the car thief committed a crime.
And, only a thief would be tempted. I have seen keys left in cars, and not once did I entertain the thought of stealing them. No honest person would.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:34 AM
 
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And, only a thief would be tempted. I have seen keys left in cars, and not once did I entertain the thought of stealing them. No honest person would.
Unfortunately things cannot be done nor recognized when done legally in this country, in fact seems frowned upon by those continuously advocating dishonest alleys for illegal aliens to take. Why wouldn't those who live as thieves continue to do so and more when they are rewarded for it.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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And, only a thief would be tempted. I have seen keys left in cars, and not once did I entertain the thought of stealing them. No honest person would.
Sounds like the classic, "blame it on the man" to me. Illegals commit crimes yet their supporters blame the American tax payers for their crimes. Not the fact most Illegals dropped out, have children at a young age and refuse to do anything about thier plight in their own Country. It's too simple to become parasitic and cross a border.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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No because most people DO have to pay the price for their crimes...American citizens would be held accountable. Illegal aliens don't seem to be at the same rate or suffer punishments of similar severity.

If I stole someone's social security number the "I didn't know it already belonged to someone" deal wouldn't work, I'd be charged with identity theft or at the very least, fraud.

So yeah, I singled out illegal aliens.
both citizen and ilegal aiens are convicted for fraudulently using SS numbers. I dont know where you get the idea that aliens are not.

thats why I gave the key example, doesnt mater if your truck is stolen by a illegal alien or a citizen, your truck is stolen.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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both citizen and ilegal aiens are convicted for fuadulently using SS numbers. I dont know where you get the idea that aliens are not.

thats why I gave the key example, doesnt mater if your truck is stolen by a illegal alien or a citizen, your truck is stolen.
Pretty sure it is impossible for a Mexican to steal your truck from Mexico. Impossible for a Guatemalan to take a job if he's in Guatemala.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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well if aliens legal or not vote in maryland, thats on maryland and not the aliens. You cant complain of what you give freely.
lol Wow, what a great explanation. We, the people, are trying to stop that, so, who is giving it freely? LOL What the heck man? You think we LIKE GIVING our money to people who shouldn't even be here and who abuse/cheat our own system?
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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When I voted in the presidential election, I was prepared to show my driver’s license as ID. To my dismay, they didn’t ask for ANY form of identification. The lady told ME my birth date, and I simply responded in the affirmative.
That's really messed up. One year, I was not registered to vote in time and they just asked me my address and let me vote. It was my first time voting and I was not serious about it (I was 18), so I didn't get in on time and I just walked in and voted. It was at my high school and I was with my mother.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Land of Sunshine & Sh*t
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both citizen and ilegal aiens are convicted for fraudulently using SS numbers. I dont know where you get the idea that aliens are not.
Because illegal aliens aren't convicted or punished at the same rate as an American would be. Nor would the American citizen have the ACLU or other special interest groups going to bat for them.


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thats why I gave the key example, doesnt mater if your truck is stolen by a illegal alien or a citizen, your truck is stolen.
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Pretty sure it is impossible for a Mexican to steal your truck from Mexico. Impossible for a Guatemalan to take a job if he's in Guatemala.
They shouldn't be here but since they are they need to be held accountable. That's it.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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both citizen and ilegal aiens are convicted for fraudulently using SS numbers. I dont know where you get the idea that aliens are not.

thats why I gave the key example, doesnt mater if your truck is stolen by a illegal alien or a citizen, your truck is stolen.
Obviously, you aren’t aware of the recent Supreme Court ruling. Illegal aliens can NOT be charged with ID theft when they STEAL a SSN, if they claim they didn’t realize it belonged to a “real” person. Tell me how many U.S. citizens can commit the same act with impunity. I’ll answer that for you. . . NONE.

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In a 9-0 decision, the justices say the crime is limited to those who knew they had stolen another person's Social Security number. The decision limits efforts to prosecute illegal workers.
Supreme Court rules against government in immigration identity-theft case - Los Angeles Times
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