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My ancestors had boundaries you didn't cross, or you knew you could be in danger.
I am of the USA tribe and we still have boundaries.
No Comanche was accepted on Apache land. Not today not tomorrow, and never in the past. So don't try and change history.
"The USA tribe"? What exactly would that be?
Now, once again, we have to assess the opportunity costs of centuries of European presence. If culturally diverse European nation-states are pursuing international unity at this point, why do we assume that indigenous peoples would not have reached the same point, when Iroquoian democracy preceded that of Europe, and the expansionist empires of Mesoamerica and the Andes were creating politically unified social organization?
this is the way I see things regarding this article,
Mexico is yes inidan and spaniard, just like all latin america
I think that Mexico was the only civilization that with the influence from spain "a european country"
gather the foundations to form a state strong enough to at least draw a line,a "border line" to the
advancenments of the european neglect masses
if the mexican civilization had not evolve with the spaniard civilization, mexico would had been targeted like the cherokkes and the rest of the indian tribes that disappear with the european viruses and killings,
mexicans and the rest of latin americans are doing exactly what the europeans did to them
when the americans of the 1850's a lot of them were irish,germans,
Why they Defected (http://vivasancarlos.com/defected.html - broken link)
While it is widely perceived in Mexico that the San Patricios defected solely on the issue of religion. The fact that there was rampant anti-Catholic bigotry in the US at that time does not play as great a role in the formation of the unit as is believed in Mexico. The religious bond was not a main reason why many defected. The attractive offer of high pay in the Mexican Army and the promise of land grants to defectors after the war outweighed the fraternal bond over religion.Moderator cut: shortened, copyright protection
what I am trying to say is that mexicans, central americans or south americans are people just like the
germans, english, scots, irish, polish that form the back bone of americas greatness
and now something similiar is occurring
the same people that were once conquer and push out (I am talking in the sense of continental people)
are now in the move as well,
Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Salvadorenos, Nicaraguenses, Peruanos, Colombianos, Venezolanos, Ecuadorenos, Bolivianos, Chilenos, Paraguayos,
that is a big diffrence when the europeans where the supreme ruler of the world "more like pest or rabbits."
in 1750 europes population 163 million, latin americas 16 million TEN TIMES BIGGER "power came with numbers"
in 1800 europes population 203 million, latin americas 24 million
in 1900 euorpes population 408 million, latin americas 74 million
on the funny side "lets pretend that when the invaders from europe came an gave mexico a bloody nose, mexico just went back to latin america and told on their buddies and wallaw....here we are..."
just like the bullies from europe when they came over and took over everything they could get at a barrel of a gun, our race the true american race is taking over , the descent way,
by working our way in, not by the barrel of the gun.
"just like the bullies from europe when they came over and took over everything they could get at a barrel of a gun, our race the true american race is taking over , the descent way,
by working our way in, not by the barrel of the gun".
Bullies from Europe? Try reading all of history about the past which includes the acts of savageness by the so-called true Americans against the white settlers who weren't always the agressors.
The decent way to take over? No, it is the cowards way by violating internationally known borders in today's modern world and dropping anchors all over the place.
If your goal is ever accomplished the white man and every other U.S. citizen should rip up all the improvements made in this country since it was established as the U.S. and then you can go back to hunting buffalo and living in t-pees.
Last edited by chicagonut; 10-04-2010 at 08:13 AM..
The Mexicans whose tribal ancestors were from south of our border have no beef with the U.S. nor any claims to it. If the descendants of the tribal ancestors indigenous to THIS country have a beef with the U.S. over the past, we certainly aren't seeing it on a grand scale. They have all the rights and priviledges of every other U.S. citizen and have their soveirgn lands.
Mexico and Mexicans will never take this country over with babies in a coward's war or establish their beloved Aztlan here and those natives indigenous to THIS country will never go along with it. It is only a wet dream by the Mexica movement and other reconquista organizations. No reconquista, hey? Videos don't lie. See below.
"just like the bullies from europe when they came over and took over everything they could get at a barrel of a gun, our race the true american race is taking over , the descent way,
by working our way in, not by the barrel of the gun".
Bullies from Europe? Try reading all of history about the past which includes the acts of savageness by the so-called true Americans against the white settlers who weren't always the agressors.
The decent way to take over? No, it is the cowards way by violating internationally known borders in today's modern world and dropping anchors all over the place.
If your goal is ever accomplished the white man and every other U.S. citizen should rip up all the improvements made in this country since it was established as the U.S. and then you can go back to hunting buffalo and living in t-pees.
look i am joking, messing around but in all the sense of trueness
LATIN AMERICANS ARE BACK, and if you say it aint so
then how do u explain
the mass movement of increase labor compare to the american citizens here? how can you sit here and tell me
that latin america as a continent is not growin in influence?
and europes decline is just a matter of time before it really declines, and europes influence over america is no more,
and would brake the umbilical cord that america was feeding of europe, and finally,
AMERICA RETURNING TO ITS ROOTS
THE TRUE INHERITORS OF THESE LAND
"just like the bullies from europe when they came over and took over everything they could get at a barrel of a gun, our race the true american race is taking over , the descent way,
by working our way in, not by the barrel of the gun".
Bullies from Europe? Try reading all of history about the past which includes the acts of savageness by the so-called true Americans against the white settlers who weren't always the agressors.
The decent way to take over? No, it is the cowards way by violating internationally known borders in today's modern world and dropping anchors all over the place.
If your goal is ever accomplished the white man and every other U.S. citizen should rip up all the improvements made in this country since it was established as the U.S. and then you can go back to hunting buffalo and living in t-pees.
I love that last paragraph, lol rip all the improvements that the white men made...lol.. so wasnt these country a virgin
unexploited, wasnt full of natural resources?
youre telling me simple
the american indians were to stupid to
discover technologies?
need to inform yourself more about history, who discover what and who did what, while europe was a mud hole the chinese, and indians and muslims were in luxury,...arggggg its even stupid explain it to you.
simple we the natural inheritors of these continent were to stupid.
well see in the time frame what 500 years of rule look to
a history of the human race 10,000 years.
[quote=chicagonut;16136155]The Mexicans whose tribal ancestors were from south of our border have no beef with the U.S. nor any claims to it. If the descendants of the tribal ancestors indigenous to THIS country have a beef with the U.S. over the past, we certainly aren't seeing it on a grand scale. They have all the rights and priviledges of every other U.S. citizen and have their soveirgn lands.
Mexico and Mexicans will never take this country over with babies in a coward's war or establish their beloved Aztlan here and those natives indigenous to THIS country will never go along with it. It is only a wet dream by the Mexica movement and other reconquista organizations. No reconquista, hey? Videos don't lie. See below.
have u read some some of europes history?
how the franks , the visigoths, the anglos, saxons the normans, the vikings, the slavs you name it, they conquer each other fought each other
to the point that they learn to work together
a european community, a common currency after HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF WAR...
to the racist wasp, simple latin americans are to stupid to
contribute ANYTHING, while that same wasp is getting his ass chew by the chinese which by latin americans standards there still backwards
"wrap it up" if the wasp, the anglo, whatever doesnt learn to accept
the people of latin america as their neighbor then simply you are going to
see a new kosovo....
and thats exactly what we, DONT WANT, if you think iraq or afghanistan were a problem and have cost us a trillion dollars to make our statement to respect us.
could you imagine confronting all latin america (22 iraqs)
or simple 50 times stonger economically.
we as americans have to learn to see latin america as OUR ALLIES, OUR NEIGHBORS, because if we dont,
then imagine china, russia, muslims,
you name it, if a war against iran, or china would occur,
most of the ones talking junk about the brown men from latin america would bow down and kiss his feet just for them to be persuade it to help em out.
LATIN AMERICANS ARE BACK, and if you say it aint so
then how do u explain
the mass movement of increase labor compare to the american citizens here? how can you sit here and tell me
that latin america as a continent is not growin in influence?
and europes decline is just a matter of time before it really declines, and europes influence over america is no more,
and would brake the umbilical cord that america was feeding of europe, and finally,
AMERICA RETURNING TO ITS ROOTS
THE TRUE INHERITORS OF THESE LAND
The descendants of the tribal ancestors of the Mexicans are not indigenous to this country so there is no way they could be inheriting it from anyone. I don't see any uprising in this country from the descendants of the tribes that were indigenous to THIS country. I don't see them outnumbering whites or blacks by high birthrates and making any attempts to take over non-tribal lands. If you have knowledge of this, please share it with us. Otherwise we aren't even talking about the same thing. The U.S. and Mexico are two separate countries and so are their past residents.
I love that last paragraph, lol rip all the improvements that the white men made...lol.. so wasnt these country a virgin
unexploited, wasnt full of natural resources?
youre telling me simple
the american indians were to stupid to
discover technologies?
need to inform yourself more about history, who discover what and who did what, while europe was a mud hole the chinese, and indians and muslims were in luxury,...arggggg its even stupid explain it to you.
simple we the natural inheritors of these continent were to stupid.
well see in the time frame what 500 years of rule look to
a history of the human race 10,000 years.
No group of people are inheritors of this entire continent. The Mexicans had their own tribal lands in Mexico and the U.S. tribes had theirs on this land. Try telling the Apache and Comanche, etc. that modern day Mexicans have a right to enter the U.S. or their sovereign lands and take up residence and they will laugh in your face.
"we as americans have to learn to see latin america as OUR ALLIES, OUR NEIGHBORS, because if we dont,
then imagine china, russia, muslims"
Sure thing, just as long as latin america understands that fences divide neighbors and that each side has their own soveign land. As soon as they understand that we'll consider them our allies. The ball is in their park now. Good neighbors respect their neighbor's private property. They don't trespass on it at will.
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