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Old 03-30-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The news article on Faux states that the various scenarios all point to the killer being part of a criminal gang.
The killer was probably not someone crossing to work, or intending to stay in the US.

To smear all persons who enter this country illegally to work by associating this killer with them, is the same as saying all Italians are Mafia.

Or all Christians want to kill a LEO and then massacre the attendees at his funeral in order to foment an uprising against the government.

Although, smearing an entire group because of the actions of a few is not a new concept, although, it is, fundamentally dishonest.
If discussing illegal aliens: smearing would not apply since they are criminals by default. Needless to say: they all need to be deported and their enablers punished----------severely.

Besides: I notice you have no sympathy for the death of Krentz---------you prefer to defend illegals.
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Old 03-30-2010, 09:31 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Mr. Obama-our President of the United States is now, at this time, on Fox pandering his HC "law", gloating with self bravado about his victory while this man's family and America mourns due to his lack of seriousness to enforce our border security. Shame on you Mr. Obama. 'Tis a sad day when American citizens feel the need to defend ourselves from invaders into this country onto our own homeland. Shame on you Mr. Obama. Health Care is not going to do one bit of good for Mr. Krentz nor the other 30,000 Americans killed by illegal aliens. Shame on you Mr. Obama, how do you sleep at night.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Clarks View Post
The news article on Faux states that the various scenarios all point to the killer being part of a criminal gang.
The killer was probably not someone crossing to work, or intending to stay in the US.

To smear all persons who enter this country illegally to work by associating this killer with them, is the same as saying all Italians are Mafia.

Or all Christians want to kill a LEO and then massacre the attendees at his funeral in order to foment an uprising against the government.

Although, smearing an entire group because of the actions of a few is not a new concept, although, it is, fundamentally dishonest.
I don't think any of us have ever implied that all illegals are murderers or even most of them.

It's funny but I was just reading a pro-illegal blog and the blogger was claiming that in a recent story about a militia group planning on committing murder that they just must be members of the Tea Party movement. There isn't even a proven connection but yet they are attributing them and their actions to the movement. Hypocricy, anyone?
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Central Coast
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If discussing illegal aliens: smearing would not apply since they are criminals by defaul
Apparently John 8:7 does not apply to you, since you have never, ever broken a single law, because if you had, your statement would apply to you also, right?
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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Apparently John 8:7 does not apply to you, since you have never, ever broken a single law, because if you had, your statement would apply to you also, right?
Some Americans have broken laws and I would expect they should be punished also. There is no double standard here.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Apparently John 8:7 does not apply to you, since you have never, ever broken a single law, because if you had, your statement would apply to you also, right?
Irrelevant. The USA is a sovereign nation and we have the right to defend our borders. Besides; if you (or I) tried that 'religious' crap in Mexico.........
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Central Coast
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If discussing illegal aliens: smearing would not apply since they are criminals by default.
John 8:7, give it a shot

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Needless to say: they all need to be deported and their enablers punished----------severely.
So, everyone who had corned beef and cabbage on St. Patricks day enabled the illegals by purchasing cabbage picked largely by illegal labor.

Those enablers should certainly be punished...... severely, even beyond the heartburn they got from eating the stuff, according to the poster whom I quoted.
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Old 03-30-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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John 8:7, give it a shot



So, everyone who had corned beef and cabbage on St. Patricks day enabled the illegals by purchasing cabbage picked largely by illegal labor.

Those enablers should certainly be punished...... severely, even beyond the heartburn they got from eating the stuff, according to the poster whom I quoted.
And what does your attempts to smear true Christians have to do with the murder of rancher Krentz by probable illegal aliens? BTW: I am not a Christian or Jew---------although, I do follow most of its tenets.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Face it, the hardened criminals have ruined it for all of them. That should be where your hostility is, not the innocent tax payers. We have to block ALL Illegals because we cannot leave our flank open to hardened criminals and losers coming to drain social services.
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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John 8:7, give it a shot
While you’re reading John 8:7 also read the Ten Commandments. You have taken a scripture from the Bible which does not condone sin; rather, instructs us to acknowledge our own.

Show us a scripture which instructs us to disobey the laws of the land, evade taxes, steal, murder, and rape. Until then, you have no Biblical support for your argument.
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