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Old 06-21-2020, 12:02 PM
 
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So. Been out for a while.

What is the hip, cool, groovy, and (your) preferred HTML / Webpage / Composer now?

Seems my Netscape is considered sort of out-dated.

Thanks!
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Old 06-21-2020, 02:43 PM
 
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Are you looking for a WYSIWYG editor? Most webpages are not made with editors where you can just type and format copy these days.

Webpages are typically hand coded in a programming language that generates HTML or don't use HTML at all.

For something close to Netscape Composer, there's one option that stands out above the rest and that is Adobe Dreamweaver. But it's not commonly used for your typical website.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:51 AM
 
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If you want to build a site look into Drupal, Wordpress etc. Drupal is content manage system or CMS. This allows you populate and move around blocks of content like menus, main content etc. You can also create custom blocks etc. If you are famialirwith building old site you may for example have to edit menus on every page, you don't do that with Drupal. You go into the Administrative panel and edit it once. Content is stored in a database which is queried for each page. You can also install modules that do multiple things.

For the front end you can choose from multiple themes, tweak them for you own needs. If you are adventurous you can try using the Bootstrap or Zen themes. You still have blocks of content but effectively a blank theme and a library of CSS classes.


You'd use a text editor like Notepad++ to directly edit CSS, HTML templates or code.
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Old 06-23-2020, 02:19 PM
 
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Well, the Netscape thing was meant to be a joke.

I guess Seamonkey Composer is the current closest to that?

As Coalman noted -- the process now looks like it has come down a bit -- quite a bit -- with the intent of getting you to host on the site / system the provides the Composer/Editor (whatever one wants to call it).

So Squarespace, Wix and some others use a model you put your words in their boxes, and on it goes.

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Real Question for Coalman? Where can I get some Coal? Have a kid building a forge and looking. (Dallas, Texas area).

Was thinking about driving out to one of the Coal power plants I used to work at. Big Brown in Fairview, Texas, or Monticello near Pittsburgh, Texas. But both of those power plants are shutdown.
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Old 06-23-2020, 03:10 PM
 
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So Squarespace, Wix and some others use a model you put your words in their boxes, and on it goes.
Drupal is not comparable to those proprietary "site builders" that may also be available with hosting packages. Avoid them like the plague. They lock you into their services, if you want to move the site off of their services you can move the content but that's all you can move and they don't make it easy either. The source HTML is copyrighted by them and can't be used on other service.

Drupal is not some puff piece of software and is going to be used on lot of the sites you visit. A quick look at list of sites using and Timex, pfizer and Fox news pop out.

Drupal is an open source web application that you can install on any standard hosting package starting around $5/month. The files and database are fully accessible and can be moved to any host at any time.

The basic install is going to exceed what you get on Wix or similar services. There will be a learning curve to learn how to use it. Beyond the basic install there are no limits to what you can do with it other than your imagination and skill level.

If you want to give it a try download and install XAMPP which will install what you need for local developmental server.


https://www.apachefriends.org/download.html

Once XAMPP is started click start next to Apche and MySQL. You need to create a MySQL user and database for Drupal to use. In XAMPP's control panel click the admin button next MySQL to open phpMyAdmin in your browser.

On the top menu in phpMyAdmin click the "User Accounts" tab and then click the link "Add a new User" a little down the page on the left.

Enter a "User name".
For "Host name" leave as default "Any host".
Enter a password.
Check the box to create a database with same name as the username.
Next to Global privileges check "Check All".
At the very bottom click the Go button.


Download Drupal here, https://www.drupal.org/download Browse to C:\xampp\htdocs and delete all the files in it. Extract the contents of Drupal zip file you downloaded to htdocs. Point your browser at http://localhost/ to install Drupal.

That's the short version and I may have missed something.




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Real Question for Coalman? Where can I get some Coal? Have a kid building a forge and looking. (Dallas, Texas area).
I deal with anthracite coal mined in Northeast PA which is used for residential heating so I couldn't tell you. I know where you can a pallet shipped for considerable amount of money but my understanding is that anthracite is not suitable for black smithing. Any Amish in Texas? They might sell it or be able to point you in the right direction.

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Was thinking about driving out to one of the Coal power plants I used to work at. Big Brown in Fairview, Texas, or Monticello near Pittsburgh, Texas. But both of those power plants are shutdown.
Train tracks where coal was shipped have been known to have coal along them.
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Old 06-23-2020, 03:44 PM
 
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Coalman . . . . .

Well THANK YOU on both.

So this would NOT be good, even if I could get it local?

What we had (back in the day) was local dirt (aka Lignite) and PRB (Power River Basin) that would get shipped in.

Are either of those suitable for Forge work?
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Old 06-23-2020, 04:07 PM
 
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Are either of those suitable for Forge work?
You are asking the wrong guy. What I know is I delivered anthracite to someone that did black smithing but he used it to heat his house. The coal he used for working was soft coal.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:38 PM
 
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Netscape, Drupal, PHP... man... loving the throwback. Surely these are still prevalent in ancient sites. I wouldn't choose any of them today, of course.

Depending on how technical you are you have plenty of options.

For the non-technical, Squarespace, Wix, Wordpress.com, are good solutions where you don't have to worry about anything.

If you have a little technical knowledge and need a content management system Wordpress w/ Gutenberg will get you there... but WordPress is still PHP + MySQL, so you're basically taking on a bunch of technical debt from the start.

If you're technical and willing to put the time into it, use what the larger websites and developers use: Node and/or Deno.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:39 PM
 
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In regards to text editor, Microsoft Visual Studio Code is the most popular, for sure. It's easy to use, well supported, has a large community, and is feature rich. It's also fast and not bloated (ehem Atom).
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Old 06-23-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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Netscape, Drupal, PHP... man... loving the throwback.

I have been hearing that PHP has been dead for what must more than decade. It's dominant and will remain like that for the foreseeable future because there is just ao much available for it like Drupal, Word Pres, phpBB etc.



https://w3techs.com/technologies/his...mming_language



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