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Old 04-06-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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I don't get it.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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You don't get how they are priced or that they aren't exchange traded? Or they aren't traded on the open market? It's rather pointless and doesn't serve much of a useful purpose


Fwiw I can't tell my broker to sell everything in my account once the account value hits a certain level either, well I could but it's not a good order and would be against the rules to act on

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Old 04-06-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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Mutual funds are priced once a day at the NAV usually after the main markets close. If you want to buy a mutual fund, you can only buy it at the NAV (plus commission if you are buying through a full service broker) for that day. The mutual fund company is the entity that sells the fund not the exchange or your broker.

You can place a limit order on an ETF or closed end fund because they trade like stocks.
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:50 PM
 
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Along with what Wells said

You don't "buy" shares directly with mutual funds, the fund does that. You just elect how much money to give them to do it with.

I like etfs myself but over the long term, being behind on 1 day's price change doesn't matter
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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OP: It sounds like ETFs are more your style
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Old 04-06-2015, 04:44 PM
 
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Mutual funds are priced once a day at the NAV usually after the main markets close. If you want to buy a mutual fund, you can only buy it at the NAV (plus commission if you are buying through a full service broker) for that day. The mutual fund company is the entity that sells the fund not the exchange or your broker.

You can place a limit order on an ETF or closed end fund because they trade like stocks.
The problem is that you cannot know the NAV your sale request will be executed at, because if you sell today, it is the NAV at today's closing, not yesterday's, that counts.

Why can't I say "Sell, if at today's closing, the NAV is greater than $XX.XX/share"?
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Old 04-06-2015, 04:45 PM
 
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You don't get how they are priced or that they aren't exchange traded? Or they aren't traded on the open market? It's rather pointless and doesn't serve much of a useful purpose


Fwiw I can't tell my broker to sell everything in my account once the account value hits a certain level either, well I could but it's not a good order and would be against the rules to act on
Why is it against the rules?
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Old 04-06-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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Why can't I say "Sell, if at today's closing, the NAV is greater than $XX.XX/share"?
The broker isn't going to know what the NAV is until sometime AFTER the close, which is too late to place an order on your behalf.
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Old 04-06-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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Why is it against the rules?
Because it's not a valid order
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Old 04-06-2015, 05:49 PM
 
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The problem is that you cannot know the NAV your sale request will be executed at, because if you sell today, it is the NAV at today's closing, not yesterday's, that counts.

Why can't I say "Sell, if at today's closing, the NAV is greater than $XX.XX/share"?


The fund companies don't run a book of orders therefore limits don't exist
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