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Old 10-15-2015, 05:27 PM
 
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As usual you are trolling. An index fund is a passively managed mutual fund. When people speak of a "mutual fund" in the generic sense they usually mean actively managed mutual fund. Index funds are also sometimes referred to as ETF's (ex- "total stock market ETF").

There was zero trolling just correcting your misinformation. Index funds can be either mutual funds or ETFs. ETFs can be passive or active. Lastly AGG's turnover isn't low, as I pointed out 318%
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Old 10-16-2015, 05:33 AM
 
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As usual you are trolling. ...
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There was zero trolling ...
I'm glad to see that, at least, a couple people get that troll is a verb and not a noun.

There are no trolls, as in huge, nasty creatures that live under bridges and populate JRR Tolkien books. There are only people who troll.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:34 AM
 
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There was zero trolling just correcting your misinformation. Index funds can be either mutual funds or ETFs. ETFs can be passive or active. Lastly AGG's turnover isn't low, as I pointed out 318%
nor have index funds been beating most investors in managed funds .
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Old 10-16-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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Sorry for jumping on this one but, with regard to a company like Vanguard that already has low fees, is there any reason why someone should pick ETFs rather than Mutual Funds?
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Sorry for jumping on this one but, with regard to a company like Vanguard that already has low fees, is there any reason why someone should pick ETFs rather than Mutual Funds?
Vanguard has both, the etfs in general at vanguard but not always have lower fees, the etfs don't have fund minimums for investment and they tend to be a little easier tax wise with cap gain distributions
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Irvine
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Thank you so much.
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Old 10-16-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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From Investopedia:

DEFINITION of 'Exchange-Traded Fund (ETF)'

An ETF, or exchange traded fund, is a marketable security that tracks an index, a commodity, bonds, or a basket of assets like an index fund. Unlike mutual funds, an ETF trades like a common stock on a stock exchange. ETFs experience price changes throughout the day as they are bought and sold. ETFs typically have higher daily liquidity and lower fees than mutual fund shares, making them an attractive alternative for individual investors.

Because it trades like a stock, an ETF does not have its net asset value (NAV) calculated once at the end of every day like a mutual fund does.
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Old 10-16-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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As usual you are trolling. An index fund is a passively managed mutual fund. When people speak of a "mutual fund" in the generic sense they usually mean actively managed mutual fund. Index funds are also sometimes referred to as ETF's (ex- "total stock market ETF").
What? This doesn't even make sense. Index funds are passively managed mutual funds but sometimes referred to as ETFs?

An index fund is just a collection of assets (stocks, bonds, etc.) that track a certain established index. How that is sold to the investor varies...it can be sold as shares in a mutual fund or an ETF. Actively managed funds can exist as either mutual funds or ETFs.

You should read about the differences between mutual funds and ETFs. They are very different investment products. I prefer ETFs as they are more tax efficient, easy to liquidate during market hours, and don't carry specific fund rules (such as those to prevent frequent trading and forcing investors to hold them for a certain period of time).

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Old 10-16-2015, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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nor have index funds been beating most investors in managed funds .
Al contraire.

"In study after study, year after year, it has been shown that the vast majority of actively managed mutual funds underperformed their [benchmark index funds]" -- Jim Cramer

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Old 10-16-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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Al contraire.

"In study after study, year after year, it has been shown that the vast majority of actively managed mutual funds underperformed their [benchmark index funds]" -- Jim Cramer

Do you have a chart that's weighted by assets?
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