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Old 01-27-2024, 12:59 PM
 
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Let me rephrase the question. Do you occasionally need to plug in your car and charge the batteries?
never , no provisions…it self charges all the time.

you can’t even do that …
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Old 01-27-2024, 02:17 PM
 
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Since 1974 I get a new car every 4-5 years

Just bought the latest

A Lexus rx500h turbo hybrid for 80k
From what I understand, the hybrids are selling pretty well. It’s the total e-cars that are not selling as well.
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Old 01-27-2024, 02:22 PM
 
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i have no issues with the system at all …it takes premium because of the turbo but all high end cars take it
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Old 01-28-2024, 08:36 AM
 
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Lexus has been in the hybrid game for a long time and not for gas mileage but more so performance. It’s leaked over into some mileage but it’s still born out of performance, bmw has gone mild hybrid for performance too
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Old 01-28-2024, 08:51 AM
 
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Lexus has been in the hybrid game for a long time and not for gas mileage but more so performance. It’s leaked over into some mileage but it’s still born out of performance, bmw has gone mild hybrid for performance too
the rx350h is a hybrid based on getting high gas mileage .

the rx500h is the performance oriented brother , so mileage plays second fiddle to performance…

it was a well executed compromise between luxury , reliability and performance compared to the porsche i was looking at or the bmw x5 which both are more performance oriented as opposed to a luxury feel .

the lexus cost a fraction for services what the others do and routine maintenance can be done by toyota dealers for a lot less
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Old 01-29-2024, 09:20 AM
 
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Decided to start a long term position on TSLA that I will keep for at least the next five years. My original investment in tesla in 2018 was based on the potential of Tesla as an automotive manufacturer. My investment in 2024 is based on the hope that Tesla will successfully execute non-automotive businesses…further, that tesla will secure revenue sources that far outpace that of the automotive side. Yes, it means I’m pinning hopes on Optimus, Dojo, application of neural nets in other lucrative technologies (including FSD), etc.
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Old 01-29-2024, 02:02 PM
 
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Decided to start a long term position on TSLA that I will keep for at least the next five years. My original investment in tesla in 2018 was based on the potential of Tesla as an automotive manufacturer. My investment in 2024 is based on the hope that Tesla will successfully execute non-automotive businesses…further, that tesla will secure revenue sources that far outpace that of the automotive side. Yes, it means I’m pinning hopes on Optimus, Dojo, application of neural nets in other lucrative technologies (including FSD), etc.
You mean, you don't believe TSLA is "just another car company" whose P/E should be 5?

I'm interested in the potential for Tesla's FSD to be licensed to other manufacturers. After all the money Ford and GM poured into trying to crack the EV market, it seems they might shy away from massive R&D on something Tesla is already way ahead on. Notwithstanding the 1,000 Tesla pileup on Long Island in that Netflix movie.
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Old 01-29-2024, 03:09 PM
 
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You mean, you don't believe TSLA is "just another car company" whose P/E should be 5?

I'm interested in the potential for Tesla's FSD to be licensed to other manufacturers. After all the money Ford and GM poured into trying to crack the EV market, it seems they might shy away from massive R&D on something Tesla is already way ahead on. Notwithstanding the 1,000 Tesla pileup on Long Island in that Netflix movie.
I get the sense that the majority of the market is pricing tesla as an automotive company, which explains the sharp drop during earnings week.

there are companies that will eventually make nicer electric vehicles than Tesla, which is something Elon understood a few years ago as evidenced by tesla moving more into the mainstream market vs luxury.

The key question I ponder is whether tesla can leverage their massive data collection for non-automotive projects. My bet is that they eventually will, which is why I am willing to invest in a company that still relies mostly on automotive revenue with a PE around 60.
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Old 01-29-2024, 03:30 PM
 
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You also failed to address anything I asked. I’m not shocked but you should recognize that

Give me your mathematical basis for high margins

Sure. Tesla leaders stated it will be cheaper to build than a Model X, while selling around similar prices.
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Old 01-29-2024, 06:30 PM
 
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Sure. Tesla leaders stated it will be cheaper to build than a Model X, while selling around similar prices.
Well that’s not a mathematical basis. Are margins increasing currently ?
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