Interview Went Well, But CEO Wants Me To Work A Day -FREE (collect, references)
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That makes no sense. If you are doing unpaid work, it's volunteer work. You don't report that. You only report work that you get paid for.
Otherwise, I'd get in trouble for the landscaping help I gave my dad.
Are you talking about a non-profit now? I don't think you can volunteer to be a cashier for say, McDonalds. But you can volunteer in a soup kitchen that feeds the needy free of charge.
You can determine a "good fit" w/o making someone work a whole day for free. Other successful companies can do it, otherwise EVERY place would be trying this. It amazes me people trying to defend this type of stuff, but then again, it;s Corporate America, so it doesn't
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Originally Posted by LeaveWI
Well did the person make the other person work 8 hours for free? This scenario proves that you can find the "good fit" w/o making them work a full day for nada. The above scenario also is just a tad different than the OP!! Good God I weep for the American worker!!
That people think testing out job duties, to quote the OP, is productive work is concerning. I don't know if weeping is called for.
I think the assertion that having an untrained, first day worker is this co's full time/perm strategy is pretty bizarre. I think a company would have to be nuts to trust the work coming from people that have not yet been assessed in the way of ability/skill, with no references checked, or any kind of measurable put in place (say other seasoned employees checking their work). Yet, a number of people come to the conclusion that this is indeed the case. I cannot wrap my head around it no matter how much I consider it.
It truly is quite amazing that, as explained earlier, I have done the same thing as both an employer and an employee (would that it had been more often in some cases where the latter is concerned) for several decades is many different arenas and enjoyed nothing but success with the practice. And not once have I ever been accused as an exploitive employer or, "a low life employer trying to circumvent the tax and labor laws (who) should be prosecuted" other than on this one thread where the lunatics have taken over the asylum and hysteria runs amok. Amazing but also becoming quite hilarious.
You live in the Virgin Islands, maybe this practice is acceptable and more well known there than in the USA.
Also, you worked in the restaurant business. Again, maybe this is an acceptable and well known practice in this sector. The OP is trying to get an OFFICE job, not get hired on as a waitress in a restaurant.
It truly is quite amazing that, as explained earlier, I have done the same thing as both an employer and an employee (would that it had been more often in some cases where the latter is concerned) for several decades is many different arenas and enjoyed nothing but success with the practice. And not once have I ever been accused as an exploitive employer or, "a low life employer trying to circumvent the tax and labor laws (who) should be prosecuted" other than on this one thread where the lunatics have taken over the asylum and hysteria runs amok. Amazing but also becoming quite hilarious.
It has just never been said to your face but know you know what they really thought. Stop trying to cheat the system and circumvent the law. One day you are going to try the wrong one and get yourself reported.
Just pay the employees and stop being so cheap. How is someone going to be deemed more of a fit if they work for free? I bet you have bank accounts with tax shelters in the Cayman Islands to.
I think the assertion that having an untrained, first day worker is this co's full time/perm strategy is pretty bizarre. I think a company would have to be nuts to trust the work coming from people that have not yet been assessed in the way of ability/skill, with no references checked, or any kind of measurable put in place (say other seasoned employees checking their work). Yet, a number of people come to the conclusion that this is indeed the case. I cannot wrap my head around it no matter how much I consider it.
Because the goal is not to get a free day from an untrained worker.
The goal is to get someone to invest large amounts of time into an "interview" process, and then lowball their wage. Or in some even more insidious cases, use this sort of process to find workers willing to break wage laws and then continue to get those workers to work unpaid overtime, off the clock days, constantly change their exempt status, etc. Ever seen those cases were workers work weeks without getting a paycheck? It starts with "interview" processes like this.
If you told me to work a full day for free, I would terminate any potential consideration immediately.
I'm sorry, but 8 hours is not that much money. If you're that selfish and cheap that you monetize every single waking minute, any possible value you have as an employer would be lost due to your toxic attitude.
There, I fixed your post. Sad to see so many responses showing how gullible Americans are. It's like Stockholm syndrome or slaves voting for their masters with some of you people.
Because the goal is not to get a free day from an untrained worker.
The goal is to get someone to invest large amounts of time into an "interview" process, and then lowball their wage.
At least this is a different angle. It might seem like a great amount of time if you're used to one hour interviews, but long interview processes are standard in some industries, so not too surprising. I'm in big pharma. There are many rounds of interviews and it goes on for some time. Presentations, meeting with up to a dozen people, touring labs, etc. It gets really involved and it is an investment.
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Or in some even more insidious cases, use this sort of process to find workers willing to break wage laws and then continue to get those workers to work unpaid overtime, off the clock days, constantly change their exempt status, etc. Ever seen those cases were workers work weeks without getting a paycheck? It starts with "interview" processes like this.
I'm not sure what this means. Overtime is standard in my industry as well. Even when I wasn't salaried I worked overtime for free. But, the pay and benefits far exceed the average American wage 10-fold. So, I'm not sure if a laborious, PITA interview process leads to this.
I'm of the mind that a first day worker is a huge PITA on their own. They suck up resources and man power. They cost the company money and colleagues time. I'm inclined to think this guy may have been burned so he's taking different approaches in the interview process. Only he will know if this approach works for him.
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