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Old 02-21-2015, 10:46 PM
 
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So I got a conditional hire offer couple days ago for a bank as a Personal Banker and have to perform a pre-employment background with HireRight. I heard nothing but horror stories about them but my main concern is job titles. I haven't yet submitted anything with HireRight but I will real soon when I receive the official verification email to submit. On my resume and application states that I was a Teller Supervisor back in 2009 but was indeed just a Teller (yes I lied, we are human). I did read the HireRight site and does say that they disclose job titles, dates, salaries, etc. Will the background check show the actual title or just company verification and dates employed? Any real world experience from anyone about this? Does the site have a job title line that I have to put in? This was six years ago and had two other jobs after that I was truthful about. Am I still doomed? Think I might just be panicking for no reason. Input? Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-21-2015, 10:53 PM
 
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From HireRight's (Top Five Candidate Lies - HireRight Employment Background Check Blog) website:

Top Five Candidate Lies:

2. Inflating Salary History or Title Held
It’s no surprise that some candidates who are not qualified for a position may lie about titles held to claim expertise and experience they do not have, and they inflate their previous salaries to negotiate better packages than they may be able to obtain otherwise.

In one case, a candidate claiming to have spearheaded many significant merger and acquisition deals at a prior employer, applied for a top finance job at a Wall Street brokerage that was opening an office in Japan. As it turned out, his background check confirmed that he had indeed been highly involved with each of the noted deals—as the staff interpreter!

Edit: So this means I definitely think they do, if they know to be on the lookout for it and wrote an article stating it's the #2 most lied about thing they've found.
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Old 02-21-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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From HireRight's (Top Five Candidate Lies - HireRight Employment Background Check Blog) website:

Top Five Candidate Lies:

2. Inflating Salary History or Title Held
It’s no surprise that some candidates who are not qualified for a position may lie about titles held to claim expertise and experience they do not have, and they inflate their previous salaries to negotiate better packages than they may be able to obtain otherwise.

In one case, a candidate claiming to have spearheaded many significant merger and acquisition deals at a prior employer, applied for a top finance job at a Wall Street brokerage that was opening an office in Japan. As it turned out, his background check confirmed that he had indeed been highly involved with each of the noted deals—as the staff interpreter!

Edit: So this means I definitely think they do, if they know to be on the lookout for it and wrote an article stating it's the #2 most lied about thing they've found.
I've seen this but this is just a source. I need real world examples. I read forums that stated they only verify dates employed, salaries and termination.
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Old 02-21-2015, 10:57 PM
 
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I've seen this but this is just a source. I need real world examples. I read forums that stated they only verify dates employed, salaries and termination.
Got it. I now link this for you: //www.city-data.com/forum/work-...ackground.html

Hopefully this helps.

Edit: Just to make it quicker for you, yes, they seem to verify past 3 job titles. But peruse through that thread at your own leisure.
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:02 PM
 
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Got it. I now link this for you: //www.city-data.com/forum/work-...ackground.html

Hopefully this helps.
Read that too lol. But I feel I need updated clarification. Maybe all companies are different or do they all ask the same thing? I guess only time will tell. It wouldn't be a good idea to put the real title on the HireRight application, right? Since I heard they're over seas, think it'll pass because of the term "Teller" that's still included?
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:09 PM
 
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Read that too lol. But I feel I need updated clarification. Maybe all companies are different or do they all ask the same thing? I guess only time will tell. It wouldn't be a good idea to put the real title on the HireRight application, right? Since I heard they're over seas, think it'll pass because of the term "Teller" that's still included?
Ah, okay. Well, I worked for a screening company that pulled up background information depending on what the employer selected. Sometimes they were MVRs, criminal record requests, credit checks, etc. You'll know what they're looking for. Companies like Sterling are then given your information and pull up what they need. Basically you'll get either a green or red light. If something comes up that was requested as being forgivable (like a speeding ticket) we would just get a green light. If something that would make you unhireable came up, like a felony, you'd get a red. We would then get more details or look into the more details. Usually if it was green, we gave no sh*ts about details because it mattered not - but we could still peek if we wanted to, and sometimes I would. Only once did we get a "yellow" meaning some information was false, such as a fake license or SSN or weird residences or some sh*t. They usually all ask for the same thing, but sometimes it depends on what job you're going in for, what your duties will be, etc.

Only if we got the red light would we go deeper - so if you somehow get a green, if their system works the same way, you'll be A-OK. Sometimes the hiring manager really liked the person and would excuse the offense, most of the times it meant automatic disqualification no questions asked. I also worked in HR. I will tell you most places WILL verify salary, title, basics about your job title. If the job title could be worded a different way, "Sales Associate" versus "Cashier", they probably won't dig deeper to see if there's a clear issue with salary... they'll usually only look deeper into it if the title has a clear distinction with a salary bump, ie: "Shift Manager" vs "CEO", or if anything comes off as fishy. Sometimes (most of the times) hiring managers notice you stuttered when you said a salary, or when you were asked about your job descriptions, so they will look into it then even if everything else checks out.

That's MY experience with it all.
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:16 PM
 
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Ah, okay. Well, I worked for a screening company that pulled up background information depending on what the employer selected. Sometimes they were MVRs, criminal record requests, credit checks, etc. You'll know what they're looking for. Companies like Sterling are then given your information and pull up what they need. Basically you'll get either a green or red light. If something comes up that was requested as being forgivable (like a speeding ticket) we would just get a green light. If something that would make you unhireable came up, like a felony, you'd get a red. We would then get more details or look into the more details. Usually if it was green, we gave no sh*ts about details because it mattered not - but we could still peek if we wanted to, and sometimes I would. Only once did we get a "yellow" meaning some information was false, such as a fake license or SSN or weird residences or some sh*t. They usually all ask for the same thing, but sometimes it depends on what job you're going in for, what your duties will be, etc.

Only if we got the red light would we go deeper - so if you somehow get a green, if their system works the same way, you'll be A-OK. Sometimes the hiring manager really liked the person and would excuse the offense, most of the times it meant automatic disqualification no questions asked. I also worked in HR. I will tell you most places WILL verify salary, title, basics about your job descriptions. If the job description could be worded a different way, "Sales Associate" versus "Cashier", they probably won't dig deeper to see if there's a clear issue with salary.. thus they'll usually look deeper into it if the title is a clear distinction with a salary bump, ie: "Shift Manager" vs "CEO".

That's MY experience with it all.
Thanks for that input. Yea, what I also read was that they really only focus more on criminal background and if you're running from the law or whatever. The salary I put isn't much anyways so I doubt they'll sweat that much for it. So overall, you think I shouldn't trip about it? I easily get paranoid. Really don't want to miss this opportunity even though it is my fault.
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:18 PM
 
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Thanks for that input. Yea, what I also read was that they really only focus more on criminal background and if you're running from the law or whatever. The salary I put isn't much anyways so I doubt they'll swear that much for it. So overall, you think I shouldn't trip about it? I easily get paranoid. Really don't want to miss this opportunity even though it is my fault.
No problem. I wouldn't get too worried about it, but it could present issues if the salary is also a lie, which they might look at if they see the job titles aren't matching up. Is that the only thing you weren't honest about?
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:28 PM
 
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No problem. I wouldn't get too worried about it, but it could present issues if the salary is also a lie, which they might look at if they see the job titles aren't matching up. Is that the only thing you weren't honest about?
Ok I'll be honest about a couple more things about that job. Like I said everything else before that and after is true but that Supervisor employment I also put I got paid 10 bucks an hour but really it was 9.06 and I put end date November 2009 but I believe my actual end date was September 2009 or maybe even October. It was too long so that part was merely a guess. Worse case scenario I'm off by two months and off by 94 cents. What's my verdict in this case? This is the only employment I goofed up on but too late to fix.
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:46 PM
 
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Ok I'll be honest about a couple more things about that job. Like I said everything else before that and after is true but that Supervisor employment I also put I got paid 10 bucks an hour but really it was 9.06 and I put end date November 2009 but I believe my actual end date was September 2009 or maybe even October. It was too long so that part was merely a guess. Worse case scenario I'm off by two months and off by 94 cents. What's my verdict in this case? This is the only employment I goofed up on but too late to fix.
Unfortunately those are the three things that most people ask in background screenings: Date of employment, salary (but much less likely) and dates of employment. I'm not sure how HireRight does it, if they reach out to your previous employers or just fax/email/mail through a formal request, but I sure hope they do not.

At first I thought you'd be okay but er... not so sure now. I would just pray they do not go that in-depth with your background check and that the position isn't too "serious". They might just want to do a criminal record check on you. Did you fill out a paper stating which backgrounds they were going to investigate? Hopefully someone else will chime in, too!
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