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Old 07-10-2010, 07:37 AM
 
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New RNs find job market tight


By Alison Young, USA TODAY


Even as a national nursing shortage looms, many newly graduated registered nurses can't find jobs because the recession has delayed retirement of experienced nurses, regulators and health care associations say.

Those who find work often can't get the better-paying hospital positions they'd hoped for and instead are turning to nursing homes, home health care or other settings, says Carylin Holsey, president of the National Student Nurses' Association.

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Old 07-10-2010, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Not surprising as hospitals are looking foe EXPERIENCED nurses, not new grads with zero practical experience. It's one of the reasons they are STILL bringing in overseas nurses.

Back in the days before grad school nurses, hospitals trained nurses and by the time they WERE nurses they already had a wealth of practical experience.
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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This does not surprise me. We're setting ourselves up for disaster if we put off hiring young, inexperienced workers. How will they ever have the experience to take over when these older workers do retire? Oh, I almost forgot, we'll just import them from other countries. God bless this broken country!
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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I was just talking about this with a relative of mine. She assumed that being a nurse can pretty much guarantee you a job. Unfortunately not.
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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This does not surprise me. We're setting ourselves up for disaster if we put off hiring young, inexperienced workers. How will they ever have the experience to take over when these older workers do retire? Oh, I almost forgot, we'll just import them from other countries. God bless this broken country!
They'll get their experience paying their dues working crap jobs. Plenty of industries do that and it works out just fine with no jobs being imported. Example - aviation.
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Old 07-10-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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Looks like I was right...
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Old 07-10-2010, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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They'll get their experience paying their dues working crap jobs. Plenty of industries do that and it works out just fine with no jobs being imported. Example - aviation.
I assume you're referring to crap jobs in the same field, like nurse's assistant? Because there's no way working at Starbucks or as a waitress is going to get them anywhere in the nursing field.
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Old 07-10-2010, 04:05 PM
 
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I assume you're referring to crap jobs in the same field, like nurse's assistant? Because there's no way working at Starbucks or as a waitress is going to get them anywhere in the nursing field.
No I'm referring to the OP's text

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Those who find work often can't get the better-paying hospital positions they'd hoped for and instead are turning to nursing homes, home health care or other settings, says Carylin Holsey, president of the National Student Nurses' Association.
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Old 07-10-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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This is an area I agree with you all on. Why are we bringing in foreigners for a job that is very dependent on human interaction and cultural awareness. Unless it's Canada, no country will understand American culture and thus that could cause somewhat serious issues.

As long as many nurses are being heavily subsidized by the federal government, those jobs belong to Americans... What's next, asking the Chinese if we can borrow their more experienced soldiers because the that's what we need?
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Old 07-10-2010, 04:29 PM
 
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You know, I (unfortunately) visit hospitals and doctors offices from time to time and have yet to see a foreign nurse. All are American, or at least white/asian.

The few articles I could find on importing nurses showed it occurred in a time when nurses were in extremely short supply.

In addition, one article showed that hospitals where foreign nurses worked actually paid more in wages to those imported nurses than US citizen nurses.

Finally, importing talent into the US isn't a bad thing (although I doubt, but cannot completely backup with facts as I don't know where to look, that as the nursing shortage eases we are importing even more nurses). These people pay income tax in the US and aren't undercutting American workers - on the contrary they are paid more.

Now, what is an issue is if we were outsourcing nurses, but that is just not possible with the nature of the job. You can't outsource nurses in India to take blood from a patient in Indiana.
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