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Currently, some new recruiters give me the "tell me where you've been submitted FIRST, so there won't be a double submission". They generally have no action. While, the old modus operandi was providing info on a new position/location and seeing if it was my match. It seems that these recruiters are fishing for opennings, and I'm the bait. Am I wrong in this?
I'd just skirt the question. Recruiters do not need to know where I am applying. Let them get their own leads.
So what if there are 'double submissions.' Big deal.
I told them I was working with another recruiter, but wasn't sure which positions they might be shopping my resume to. They either believed it on face value or were smart enough to pick up that I wasn't spilling.
Actually, playing devil's advocate here - I don't think that question is too big of an issue. Many companies use multiple recruiters to fill vacant positions and one position can be worked on by more than one recruiter. For some companies, once you are submitted by one recruiter, then another recruiter can not submit your resume anymore - even if it is for a difference position. By askin that question, it saves both your time and the recruiters.
Perhaps their intentions might be different now with the economy, but when I was looking for a job early last year, I've had plenty of recruiters ask me that question and I answered it. There were some recruiters who didn't ask me, and they would send me a job description that I already got submitted for through another recruiter. As a matter of fact, my current job now - after I was scheduled for a interview, I had a 2nd recruiter call me and send me the exact same job, and I explained to him I am already interviewing with them, and he apologized and said he wasn't aware I was already submitted for it.
I don't think they are ALL evilly motivated but in 'this economy' (sick of this phrase) you have to be cagey and realize they are not your 'buddies' or friends. They are running a business. If that means they swipe the job from you, get the potential employer as a client of THEIRS and you get $3 bucks less an hour, they will do it.
Actually, playing devil's advocate here - I don't think that question is too big of an issue. Many companies use multiple recruiters to fill vacant positions and one position can be worked on by more than one recruiter. For some companies, once you are submitted by one recruiter, then another recruiter can not submit your resume anymore - even if it is for a difference position. By askin that question, it saves both your time and the recruiters.
Perhaps their intentions might be different now with the economy, but when I was looking for a job early last year, I've had plenty of recruiters ask me that question and I answered it. There were some recruiters who didn't ask me, and they would send me a job description that I already got submitted for through another recruiter. As a matter of fact, my current job now - after I was scheduled for a interview, I had a 2nd recruiter call me and send me the exact same job, and I explained to him I am already interviewing with them, and he apologized and said he wasn't aware I was already submitted for it.
It was true in the past. However, the current recruiters have no leads, and are asking about yours. That's what so misleading. I've always checked not be double submitted because it created unecessary conflicts and confusion.
If that means they swipe the job from you, get the potential employer as a client of THEIRS and you get $3 bucks less an hour, they will do it.
Well, it's not that simple. Recruiters will generally go through a screening process to become "preferred" vendors, and this can take a while to be a approved. This is why some recruiters always have open positions for certain companies as they build that relationship. So it's not as simple as calling a company and offering their services.
Also, in "this economy" (and I agree with you that that term is being overused!), many companies prefer to find candidates on their own as opposed to using recruiters as they can be charged a fee of 30% or more of the positions salary.
In my circumstances though, I've never told recruiters what positions I was applying for/being submitted to, but only the company that I have been submitted to already. I don't see the harm in that. There was one recruiter who asked about the position because she didn't want to submit me for the same role. I told her to send me a description of the role she had and I would let her know, which she did - and it turned out to be a different role.
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