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Old 10-03-2017, 09:12 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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A missionary is not someone standing on a street corner blasting off about the Messiah.

I was of the opinion that a missionary is someone who brings aid to people in need.
Food, clothing, medical supplies. Clean water first and foremost.

There are people that live in very difficult places that are in serious desperation of these basics.
Settle these first, then celebrate.

Till then, there is much work to do.
And each member is to perform their task with a certain level of discretion.



So like i said,
i doubt very much that a christian would spend a lucrative amount of monetary assets to travel abroad and vacation and develop propaganda hit pieces.


but what do i know.
A missionary "is" someone standing on a street corner blasting off about the Messiah attempting to convert Jews. A Christian who goes to Israel who throws cash at the Arab Muslims thinking their money will do something in reality resolves nothing. Anyone who sends money to Haredi who thinks it will in some way aid them is blind to the reality that they are using the funds to keep their lives exactly as it is now.

Missionaries don't bring food. Missionaries don't bring clothing. Missionaries don't bring medical supplies. Missionaries can't magically bring potable water. If clean water is first and foremost on your mind, show us where Christians have paid to build desalination plants and have paid to maintain, power and staff them 24/7.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:11 AM
 
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A missionary "is" someone standing on a street corner blasting off about the Messiah attempting to convert Jews. A Christian who goes to Israel who throws cash at the Arab Muslims thinking their money will do something in reality resolves nothing. Anyone who sends money to Haredi who thinks it will in some way aid them is blind to the reality that they are using the funds to keep their lives exactly as it is now.

Missionaries don't bring food. Missionaries don't bring clothing. Missionaries don't bring medical supplies. Missionaries can't magically bring potable water. If clean water is first and foremost on your mind, show us where Christians have paid to build desalination plants and have paid to maintain, power and staff them 24/7.
Here's a bottle of water...Now convert to Christianity...
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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A missionary "is" someone standing on a street corner blasting off about the Messiah attempting to convert Jews. A Christian who goes to Israel who throws cash at the Arab Muslims thinking their money will do something in reality resolves nothing. Anyone who sends money to Haredi who thinks it will in some way aid them is blind to the reality that they are using the funds to keep their lives exactly as it is now.

Missionaries don't bring food. Missionaries don't bring clothing. Missionaries don't bring medical supplies. Missionaries can't magically bring potable water. If clean water is first and foremost on your mind, show us where Christians have paid to build desalination plants and have paid to maintain, power and staff them 24/7.
Ok, ill leave it to you then.
considering the subject is perspectives.

Sorry, i was only trying to give you some insight into what christian missionaries do.

I agree with your assessment on "throwing cash" at Arab muslims and Haredi.
Though that is far from the point i was making.

The Truth is.
Those people who are given financial support to vacation in Israel, then go out and make propaganda hit pieces, are not missionaries.
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:46 AM
 
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Ok, ill leave it to you then.
considering the subject is perspectives.

Sorry, i was only trying to give you some insight into what christian missionaries do.

I agree with your assessment on "throwing cash" at Arab muslims and Haredi.
Though that is far from the point i was making.

The Truth is.
Those people who are given financial support to vacation in Israel, then go out and make propaganda hit pieces, are not missionaries.
I've seen first hand what bible thumping christian missionaries do. What they do and what people think they do are most of the time not the same.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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I've seen first hand what bible thumping christian missionaries do. What they do and what people think they do are most of the time not the same.
A general accusation will not go over well with me.

Ive heard enough rumor and slander to feed an army.

So i suppose that was the intention all along.



Ok, so you dont like haredi, christians, did i miss anybody.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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A general accusation will not go over well with me.

Ive heard enough rumor and slander to feed an army.

So i suppose that was the intention all along.

...
General, rumor? NO. Reality? YES.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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General, rumor? NO. Reality? YES.
So, ive seen things that would send chills down the hardest spine.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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General, rumor? NO. Reality? YES.
Emuna
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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So, ive seen things that would send chills down the hardest spine.
I've seen things that will give one night terrors that will not be forgotten until the last breath comes out of their body.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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I've seen things that will give one night terrors that will not be forgotten until the last breath comes out of their body.
Look closer next time and watch what destroys them
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