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Old 05-25-2014, 06:33 AM
 
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I really appreciate the answers to my question, and am requesting that the thread be closed now. Tikva, glad you had a wonderful experience!

 
Old 05-25-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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No. YOU are OTD if you do not understand the words you are stating.
...and WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE
(Sorry, I couldn't resist the opportunity )

Aha. So my mother who davened Shachris for three hours every Shabbos morning, painstakingly enunciating every word because of her limited Jewish education, was OTD because she did not understand what she was saying. I see.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Lake Worth, FL
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Yeah, I will also state my disagreement with Pruz's statement.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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...and WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE
(Sorry, I couldn't resist the opportunity )
I'm not Judging. I'm stating fact. In Judaism, As in Islam, one must read the Tanakh in its original language so there is no loss in translation. Since you are a woman in a man oriented Haredi world, not matter what you state here you are not privy to what as man learns. In her world the words of the lead Rav is taken literally without question. So whatever they state the words mean it is taken as truth. So when you daven you simply read the words because you were "told" what they meant. For this reason the books outside of Orthodox have an English side, so even if they cannot understand the words they are stating at least they know what they mean (some books are written and translated better than others).
 
Old 05-25-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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Just curious. What makes you so sure I"m a woman

So my mother was doubly OTD. Not only did she daven without understanding the words, but she also read the Tzena Urenah.... in Hungarian.

Pruzh, you're the gift that keeps on giving.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Just curious. What makes you so sure I"m a woman

So my mother was doubly OTD. Not only did she daven without understanding the words, but she also read the Tzena Urenah.... in Hungarian.

Pruzh, you're the gift that keeps on giving.
First of all keep your mother out of this. Its disrepectful and I'm not going to discuss her.

As to your sex, I'm not going there since by a combination of all your posts you are what you stipulated you are to the community on this forum. Idc.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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The OP's Question has been answered. The thread is now wandering.

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