Long ago on independence square (Columbia, Liberty: carpenter, democratic, positions)

[weimlover6]

Not so difficult, but related to a recent set of posts....

[WCHS'59]

Number 1 Sanborn Map, August 1916.

Either the map makers got it wrong or the city changed the name but Ruby Ave is identified as Rubey Ave.

Woodlawn Cemetery fronts on High Street. At some point the cemetery was extended one block west to front on Noland.

Between Main and Liberty from Stone to Sea was the north-south Washington Street.

South of Independence Ave (24 Highway) just east of Noland at the north-south Leslie Street were two east-west streets called Irvine and Stuyvesent. Leslie does not exist in that area now, nor do these two streets now exist.

Parker Avenue was a north-south street between Waldo and College almost on line with the current day Noland. Parker Street is now further east beginning off of Independence Ave or Highway 24 at Emery as an east-west street.

Dodgion Street extended north to an intersection with Independence Ave or Highway 24. It now stops at College Street.

[Mad Anthonie]

Originally Posted by weimlover6

Not so difficult, but related to a recent set of posts....

Very easy, at least for those of us still in town!

[WCHS'59]

Number 1 Sanborn Map, August 1916.

North-south Huston Street was located between Hocker on the east and High on the west and Elm on the north and Pacific on the south.

[MRG Dallas]

Originally Posted by Mad Anthonie

Very easy, at least for those of us still in town!

Ok for those of us not in town . . . .Sandwich University, the first-of-its-kind college to prepare workers for the rising fast food industry!

[WCHS'59]

Well, I wondered what that photo was intended to solicit, chuckle, I must be getting old.

Sandwich U was on Maple, I believe, but not sure where.

I think it was started as the first eating business in a "revived" square?

I subscribed to the Examiner all the time I was in the service and a while after. I vaguely recall when it started up and thought the square area was so dead there would never be enough business to support the effort.

I dont know that I ever went by the place in front and this alley view is not familiar.

[MRG Dallas]

So what was the approximate time frame that The Square "died" so to speak? The BR Mall opened I think in 1959, and was the only mall around for quite some time. I still have fond memories of hanging out in The Square during the early 60s, on up to 63 or 64 at least. From that point forward, not so much. I recall by the 70s the brilliant "urban renewal" plan with the diagonal parking or whatever hair-brained scheme the City Fathers came up with. Was The Square still viable in 1965? 1968? I realize it would have been over the course of years but when did The Square really stop being The Square we all knew and loved?

[MRG Dallas]

Originally Posted by WCHS'59

Well, I wondered what that photo was intended to solicit, chuckle, I must be getting old.

Sandwich U was on Maple, I believe, but not sure where.

I think it was started as the first eating business in a "revived" square?

I subscribed to the Examiner all the time I was in the service and a while after. I vaguely recall when it started up and thought the square area was so dead there would never be enough business to support the effort.

I dont know that I ever went by the place in front and this alley view is not familiar.

Independence, MO —
Rita Marie (Watson) Lamb, age 84, died peacefully on April 30, 2012, at Jackson Village, Independence, Mo.
Rita was born November 12, 1927, in Kansas City, Mo., the daughter of Edward and Marie Watson. She grew up on Cedarcrest Farms in Independence, attended St. Mary’s School, and Mount St. Scholastica College, where she majored in Nutrition. Rita was a long-time member of St. Mary’s Catholic Church and St. Mark’s Catholic Church of Independence. She was owner of Sandwich U restaurant on the historic Independence Square for 16 years.

[WCHS'59]

Originally Posted by MRG Dallas

So what was the approximate time frame that The Square "died" so to speak? The BR Mall opened I think in 1959, and was the only mall around for quite some time. I still have fond memories of hanging out in The Square during the early 60s, on up to 63 or 64 at least. From that point forward, not so much. I recall by the 70s the brilliant "urban renewal" plan with the diagonal parking or whatever hair-brained scheme the City Fathers came up with. Was The Square still viable in 1965? 1968? I realize it would have been over the course of years but when did The Square really stop being The Square we all knew and loved?

I don't recall when the article was published and the only thing I can recall about it is two things. One was the name of the place of business, I thought it was rather odd. The other was that she was going to try to get something going on the square.

[Mad Anthonie]

Originally Posted by WCHS'59

Number 1 Sanborn Map, August 1916.

Either the map makers got it wrong or the city changed the name but Ruby Ave is identified as Rubey Ave.
Between Main and Liberty from Stone to Sea was the north-south Washington Street.

The original name was Rubey, in honor of Mr. Reuben Rubey. He was a cabinet maker and carpenter. He built and operated the first city market in town (Lexington & Osage in 1838). He also made coffins and furniture. His grandson was Henry G Mitchell of Ott & Mitchell funeral home. Mr. Rubey owned land on the south side of town. He subdivided it and named one of the streets for himself. In 1951 new street signs were made which misspelled his name, but Mayor Sermon told them not to correct it.

Washington Street still exists.

Originally Posted by MRG Dallas

So what was the approximate time frame that The Square "died" so to speak? The BR Mall opened I think in 1959, and was the only mall around for quite some time. I still have fond memories of hanging out in The Square during the early 60s, on up to 63 or 64 at least. From that point forward, not so much. I recall by the 70s the brilliant "urban renewal" plan with the diagonal parking or whatever hair-brained scheme the City Fathers came up with. Was The Square still viable in 1965? 1968? I realize it would have been over the course of years but when did The Square really stop being The Square we all knew and loved?

When I was a kid the Square still had many active businesses. Jones, Penney's, Woolworth, Monkey Wards, Sears Outlet, Western Auto, and Katz Drugs were all still open. My paper route was on the Square at the time Urban Renewal came in. That fiasco, along with the opening of Independence Center, effectively killed the Square from a retail perspective.