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[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by CrownVic95

If that were the case, and it's not, I would tend to view your left extremist positions as more mainstream....because I'm surrounded by it here. So your comment makes no sense.

This may come as a shock to you, but middle of the road in Madison is NOT middle of the road.

"Left Extermist positions." Absolutely not, guess again.
I doubt you know much about Madison. I moved here for a job, but doubt I will stay here more than a few years. It is just way too fiscally liberal for me. Madison does have a great job market, lakes, Downtown, and strong levels of local business growth. It isn't like some areas of the US, flyover country.

[CrownVic95]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

"Left Extermist positions." Absolutely not, guess again.
I doubt you know much about Madison. I moved here for a job, but doubt I will stay here more than a few years. It is just way too fiscally liberal for me. Madison does have a great job market, lakes, Downtown, and strong levels of local business growth. It isn't like some areas of the US, flyover country.

I know enough about Madison to stand strongly by what I said. I also know enough about your posting history to know that you're middle-of-the-road like Al Gore is middle-of-the-road.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

It is really social engineering .

I'm curious how you define social engineering. I mean if cutting taxes and also cutting certain social welfare programs is social engineering, wouldn't raising taxes and creating new programs or increasing funding for existing social welfare programs also be social engineering? Is that not just the type of political decisions that all governments make on a regular basis, be it federal, state or local?

Put another way, I know you hate Brownback because he is a social and fiscal conservative. But pick the most liberal and progressive governor you admire: if that governor promotes raising taxes and increasing funding for education, mental health or whatever program you support, is that not also social engineering - just social engineering you support and think is a good idea?

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by CrownVic95

I know enough about Madison to stand strongly by what I said. I also know enough about your posting history to know that you're middle-of-the-road like Al Gore is middle-of-the-road.

This isn't a political forum. Also, I've always been more fiscally conservative. I mainly support spending to maintain a strong competitive US society and target inefficiencies and waste whenever necessary.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

I'm curious how you define social engineering. I mean if cutting taxes and also cutting certain social welfare programs is social engineering, wouldn't raising taxes and creating new programs or increasing funding for existing social welfare programs also be social engineering? Is that not just the type of political decisions that all governments make on a regular basis, be it federal, state or local?

Put another way, I know you hate Brownback because he is a social and fiscal conservative. But pick the most liberal and progressive governor you admire: if that governor promotes raising taxes and increasing funding for education, mental health or whatever program you support, is that not also social engineering - just social engineering you support and think is a good idea?

It would depend exactly what the details were regarding particular issues, but I agree that the term "social engineering" can be a personally defined way of looking at well-defined issues both in potentially negative or positive ways depending on ones personal viewpoint.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

This isn't a political forum. Also, I've always been more fiscally conservative. I mainly support spending to maintain a strong competitive US society and target inefficiencies and waste whenever necessary.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but you make political comments on this forum. Judgments about fiscal policy and taxation are political judgments.

[CrownVic95]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

This isn't a political forum. Also, I've always been more fiscally conservative. I mainly support spending to maintain a strong competitive US society and target inefficiencies and waste whenever necessary.

Really?

Better tell the guy who started this thread....
https://www.city-data.com/forum/kansa...brownback.html
and who has been for years filling the Kansas forum with political ridicule directed at the the Governor and the people of Kansas.

Unbelievable....