What Do You Hate About Kansas City (Parkway: for sale, lease)

[dundermifflin]

Originally Posted by aragx6

You just completely contradicted yoruself -- you understand that if KC didn't have the earnings tax they would simply be forced to raise both the sales tax and the property tax right?

I am not saying the property tax is low but just higher in Austin... I guess that is true- why is it that so many cities choose that over the earnings tax?

[kcmo]

I pay a 3% Etax here. I'm fine with it because I can't feel it. I used to feel those County Property taxes dues on Dec 31 every year (we don't have personal prop tax here).

A few bucks every week or $800 at the end of the year?

It all evens out though. I still don't get why people hate the etax so much. It's just not a big deal.

[STLCityMike]

Originally Posted by kcmo

I pay a 3% Etax here. I'm fine with it because I can't feel it. I used to feel those County Property taxes dues on Dec 31 every year (we don't have personal prop tax here).

A few bucks every week or $800 at the end of the year?

It all evens out though. I still don't get why people hate the etax so much. It's just not a big deal.

I completely agree. 1% off your income is hardly ntoicable when taken each check. We do have the property tax here - which seems odd since I paid sales tax on my car when I got it - but we enjoy lower rates to renew our car tags, and lower income tax. The govenment will get their share one way or the other!

[xenokc]

KCMO relies less on property tax and relies more heavily on sales and income tax so that the city can get income from those who live outside KCMO. It's a way to get the metro to help fund metro wide things w/out fully putting the tax burden on KCMO residents.

I think this stat is city, not metro.

Reliance on property tax...
1 Boston 96.6
2 Milwaukee 92.9
3 Austin 91.8
4 Indianapolis 91.4
5 Minneapolis 90.5
6 Detroit 86.9
7 Houston 85.0
8 San Antonio 84.8
9 Dallas 83.8
10 Miami 81.8
11 Chicago 81.4
12 Pittsburgh 78.1
13 Charlotte 76.6
14 San Diego 72.4
15 Cincinnati 72.3
Average 72.1
16 Philadelphia 71.9
17 Portland 70.6
18 Cleveland 69.6
19 Memphis 68.8
20 St. Louis 68.1
21 Columbus 67.6
22 Salt Lake City 67.5
23 Atlanta 66.7
24 San Francisco 66.7
25 Phoenix 64.3
26 Nashville 63.9
27 Kansas City 62.9
28 Los Angeles 62.6
29 New York 59.7
30 Denver 58.2
31 Seattle 57.9
32 Louisville 56.3
33 Oklahoma City 53.8
34 Washington D.C. 51.4
35 Baltimore 48.7

Reliance on sales tax...
1 Oklahoma City 41.1
2 Denver 36.7
3 Seattle 31.9
4 Phoenix 29.8
5 Nashville 29.5
6 Atlanta 29.4
7 Los Angeles 28.6
8 Kansas City 27.7
9 Salt Lake City 27.7
10 Memphis 25.6
11 St. Louis 22.4
12 San Diego 20.3
13 San Francisco 18.3
14 Charlotte 18.3
Average 16.0
15 Washington D.C. 15.6
16 Chicago 15.5
17 Houston 13.7
18 Dallas 13.7
19 New York 13.7
20 Miami 13.5
21 San Antonio 13.3
22 Cleveland 11.4
23 Columbus 8.2
24 Portland 7.3
25 Austin 6.9
26 Louisville 6.2
27 Pittsburgh 5.0
28 Minneapolis 4.8
29 Cincinnati 4.7
30 Detroit 4.5
31 Milwaukee 4.0
32 Baltimore 3.6
33 Philadelphia 2.6
34 Indianapolis 1.6
35 Boston 1.2

[xenokc]

BTW, someone mentioned in some other thread that KC does not have high voter participation. According to this, KC is top 10. Not sure if it's metro or city though.

Voter participation in 2008 general election

1 Denver 92.7
2 Minneapolis 92.1
3 Portland 86.0
4 Seattle 83.9
5 San Diego 83.7
6 Kansas City 83.2
7 Milwaukee 82.2
8 San Francisco 81.7
9 Phoenix 79.2
10 Nashville 77.3
11 Los Angeles 76.8
12 Atlanta 76.5
13 Baltimore 75.8
14 Boston 74.5
15 Washington D.C. 74.2
16 Chicago 73.8
Average 73.3
17 Miami 71.6
18 Memphis 71.1
19 Salt Lake City 70.4
20 St. Louis 69.9
21 Philadelphia 69.5
22 Columbus 69.1
23 Cincinnati 69.1
24 Louisville 68.9
25 Charlotte 68.7
26 Pittsburgh 68.2
27 Oklahoma City 68.2
28 Detroit 67.2
29 Austin 65.0
30 New York 65.0
31 Cleveland 65.0
32 Dallas 64.1
33 Indianapolis 61.3
34 Houston 60.5
35 San Antonio 57.7

The volunteering rate of KC doeesn't imply we're an apathetic city...

VOLUNTEER RATE
Percent of residents who
volunteer, 2007-2009 average
1 Minneapolis 37.4
2 Portland 37.1
3 Salt Lake City 35.8
4 Seattle 34.9
5 Oklahoma City 33.9
6 Kansas City 32.0
7 Columbus 31.9
8 Washington D.C. 31.1
9 St. Louis 30.5
10 Denver 30.2
11 Milwaukee 30.0
12 San Francisco 29.9
13 Cincinnati 29.6
14 Baltimore 29.4
15 Indianapolis 29.2
16 Dallas 28.2
17 Charlotte 28.2
Average 27.9
18 Louisville 27.8
19 Cleveland 27.7
20 Atlanta 27.6
21 Pittsburgh 27.5
22 San Diego 27.2
23 Detroit 26.5
24 Philadelphia 26.0
25 Boston 25.5
26 Memphis 25.4
27 Austin 25.3
28 Nashville 25.1
29 Chicago 24.0
30 Phoenix 23.9
31 Houston 23.8
32 San Antonio 21.3
33 Los Angeles 20.8
34 New York 15.9
35 Miami 14.8

Source for this and last post...
http://www.ewgateway.org/pdffiles/li...ws/wws2011.pdf

[Blue Earth]

Originally Posted by xenokc

BTW, someone mentioned in some other thread that KC does not have high voter participation. According to this, KC is top 10. Not sure if it's metro or city though.

Voter participation in 2008 general election

1 Denver 92.7
2 Minneapolis 92.1
3 Portland 86.0
4 Seattle 83.9
5 San Diego 83.7
6 Kansas City 83.2
7 Milwaukee 82.2
8 San Francisco 81.7
9 Phoenix 79.2
10 Nashville 77.3
11 Los Angeles 76.8
12 Atlanta 76.5
13 Baltimore 75.8
14 Boston 74.5
15 Washington D.C. 74.2
16 Chicago 73.8
Average 73.3
17 Miami 71.6
18 Memphis 71.1
19 Salt Lake City 70.4
20 St. Louis 69.9
21 Philadelphia 69.5
22 Columbus 69.1
23 Cincinnati 69.1
24 Louisville 68.9
25 Charlotte 68.7
26 Pittsburgh 68.2
27 Oklahoma City 68.2
28 Detroit 67.2
29 Austin 65.0
30 New York 65.0
31 Cleveland 65.0
32 Dallas 64.1
33 Indianapolis 61.3
34 Houston 60.5
35 San Antonio 57.7

The volunteering rate of KC doeesn't imply we're an apathetic city...

VOLUNTEER RATE
Percent of residents who
volunteer, 2007-2009 average
1 Minneapolis 37.4
2 Portland 37.1
3 Salt Lake City 35.8
4 Seattle 34.9
5 Oklahoma City 33.9
6 Kansas City 32.0
7 Columbus 31.9
8 Washington D.C. 31.1
9 St. Louis 30.5
10 Denver 30.2
11 Milwaukee 30.0
12 San Francisco 29.9
13 Cincinnati 29.6
14 Baltimore 29.4
15 Indianapolis 29.2
16 Dallas 28.2
17 Charlotte 28.2
Average 27.9
18 Louisville 27.8
19 Cleveland 27.7
20 Atlanta 27.6
21 Pittsburgh 27.5
22 San Diego 27.2
23 Detroit 26.5
24 Philadelphia 26.0
25 Boston 25.5
26 Memphis 25.4
27 Austin 25.3
28 Nashville 25.1
29 Chicago 24.0
30 Phoenix 23.9
31 Houston 23.8
32 San Antonio 21.3
33 Los Angeles 20.8
34 New York 15.9
35 Miami 14.8

Source for this and last post...
http://www.ewgateway.org/pdffiles/li...ws/wws2011.pdf

Great facts.

[johnnybgood1999]

The lack of mountains make it not for me. I also don't like the fact that the rivers are an unflattering brown color. Other than that I liked it alot when I went to school close to KC. I like the clear water and mountains here in VA.

[2011member]

I hate the airport, lack of light rail and lack of downtown hotel rooms.

[Minnesota Spring]

I don't like how sprawled out the city and metro area is. I would be nice to have things like the Plaza and Westport located Downtown as well as the other buildings in between. The metro keeps sprawling further and further into Kansas. Ligh trail would be nice as well.

[lovekcmo]

I agree, airport hurts the city more than it helps, and sprawl is horrible here and uncalled for. So much infill within the I 435 loop that could be used instead of spreading further and further out.