[nevadaned]

Is there a casino that disallows smoking? Or at least restricts it. I can no longer go inside a casino in this town. I understand that a lot of gamblers smoke but shouldn't they cater to the rest of us who lead clean lives. I know this is Nevada and their smoking laws are the same since the 1940s but we need to do something about this. Get smokers 50 feet away from buildings, etc. this is not a victimless crime. My grandmother died from cancer from second hand smoke. She never drank or smoked a day in her life. Time for our libertarian values to take root and regulate this life threatening act that kills the innocent.


This brings up another thing, why so many smokers in this town? Did they Never get the memo? Yes most of us tried smoking in high school but it seems like in this town people never realized that it is no longer cool. You look like trash. Your face and skin look awful, your hair, clothes, cars, and houses reek. Suck it up and quit, your gross- true fact. You look 20 years older than you are and will die an awful death. Do It in your own home or car and stop killing the innocent. Stop throwing your butts out of your car windows. Why are we not ticketing these awful people?

I love this town but we've got to do something about it. Don't get me started on tattoos.

[macgeek]

OMG I saw a woman last night in a casino with a tattoo of a cigarette.
she should be burned at the stake. (well 50 feet from the nearest entrance, anyway)

Look, I am also a Non smoker (never smoked) and yes, people go too far with cigarette smoking in this town.

But if it bothers you MOVE TO ANOTHER MACHINE / PLACE

Smoking is allowed by law here, till its not you need to grow a set*

Jonathan

*Of lungs

[Everdeen]

A few years ago, there was something about a casino that tried to have a smoke free policy, but it did not make it. There wasn't enough business. A lot of gamblers smoke and I would rather allow that than have them go somewhere else. Our economy cannot take another hit; we already have too much competition.

I do not smoke and cannot stand it either. I just don't patronize casinos that do not have a good ventilation system.

Time for our libertarian values to take root and regulate this life threatening act that kills the innocent.

Libertarians believe that people have the right to smoke and that people who do not like it, have the right go somewhere else.

[modhatter]

Originally Posted by macgeek

OMG I saw a woman last night in a casino with a tattoo of a cigarette.
she should be burned at the stake. (well 50 feet from the nearest entrance, anyway)

Look, I am also a Non smoker (never smoked) and yes, people go too far with cigarette smoking in this town.

But if it bothers you MOVE TO ANOTHER MACHINE / PLACE

Smoking is allowed by law here, till its not you need to grow a set*

Jonathan

*Of lungs

Macgeek, I usually agree with you, but not this time. The OP has a point. I do believe in freedom of choice, but only when their bad choices do not harm others. The only reason Casino's in Vegas still permit smoking in their public areas is money. Plain and simple. They know if they restrict smoking, they will lose business, as once someone has to get up off their chair and go outside for their nicotine fix, they will lose 75% of the losers.

They could redo their casinos and divide one half for smokers and the other half for non smokers, but that would take a LOT of money. They could section off half of the casino like restaurants used to do for smokers and non smokers, but that would take some re-arranging and money too.

Until more and more non smokers like the OP start screaming and letting the casinos know they will not go there until they provide a clean place for them to spend their money, they will continue to ignore the cries of people like the OP. It will have to cost them some serious money loss before they will do anything to change things. They are not at all concerned about your health. They are only concerned about making money.

Legislators in Nevada are also in bed with the casinos as it is a main revenue source for them, so you will not get any action out of them. It is only people like the OP who will succeed in making any changes, and only if they refuse to frequent the establishment, and let it be known. Let them build a new casino divided by walls and hotel rooms. One side for smokers, and one side for non smokers. Let them see their profits sour over the other casinos, and then you might see change. Go on Yelp and read the comments. What's the main complaint? Can't get away from all the smoke.

It is a shame there are so many smokers in Vegas. There are so many ways to help people stop today. Again, I very much believe in freedom of choice, and if someone wants to drink himself or smoke himself to death, then do so.
But not while driving on public streets and not while in a confined area and effecting others.

So until you guys can inhale that smoke and keep it inside your own body and not exhale it, don't you dare start screaming FREEDOM of choice to the rest of us and stop defending the laws or lack of laws that are harming people.

[modhatter]

Originally Posted by Everdeen

A few years ago, there was something about a casino that tried to have a smoke free policy, but it did not make it. There wasn't enough business. A lot of gamblers smoke and I would rather allow that than have them go somewhere else. Our economy cannot take another hit; we already have too much competition.

I do not smoke and cannot stand it either. I just don't patronize casinos that do not have a good ventilation system.

Libertarians believe that people have the right to smoke and that people who do not like it, have the right go somewhere else.

I strongly disagree with that statement, as I believe you have the concept backwards. As you see, the non smokers (the other half of people who should have the same liberties) have no where else to go. So casinos that provide smoking throughout the entire gaming facility only providing for half of the population and forcing the rest to endure at a cost.

Let business do what ever business wants irregardless of consequences. I know the philosophy, and I think it stinks, and I draw the line when it hurts people. Why have any laws at all? Why not let criminals do what criminals want? After all it is their business and livelihood. We don't need any damn police department trying to prevent them from carrying on and growing their business as they see fit.

[swagger]

Originally Posted by nevadaned

Is there a casino that disallows smoking? Or at least restricts it.

Harrah's tried it in the '90s. Didn't last long.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

I can no longer go inside a casino in this town.

Sure you can! Just walk in, like anywhere else. Or have you been banned or something?

Originally Posted by nevadaned

...the rest of us who lead clean lives.

Well isn't THAT a pretentious thing to say?!! That statement alone should disqualify your entire post, as you CLEARLY have some ridiculous emotional bias against smokers.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

I know this is Nevada and their smoking laws are the same since the 1940s

Ignorance defined.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

this is not a victimless crime.

It's not a crime at all.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

My grandmother died from cancer from second hand smoke. She never drank or smoked a day in her life.

No, she didn't. I'm sorry for your loss, but "second hand smoke" is a boogeyman created by the anti-smoking industry (there's a hell of a lot of money in that business) to push a political agenda. You do more harm to your lungs BBQing in your backyard than you do spending an evening in a smoky casino.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

Time for our libertarian values to take root and regulate this life threatening act

You have no concept of what "Libertarian values" are, obviously.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

your gross- true fact.

Fact? Really? Prove it.

What a stupid thing to say.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

You look 20 years older than you are and will die an awful death.

Actually, I look about 10 years younger than I am. I moved here at 36, and was still getting carded at the tables until I started to get some gray hair.

As for how I'll die, please, do tell - how will I die, and when? (And can I borrow your crystal ball??) It's not likely to be from smoking, I'll tell you that.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

Do It in your own home or car and stop killing the innocent.

Drama queen.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

Stop throwing your butts out of your car windows.

I don't do that. Most smokers don't do that. Some people litter - smokers and non-smokers alike. You're tunnel vision sees only the smokers, because you have an irrational hatred of us. That's your problem, not ours.

Originally Posted by nevadaned

Don't get me started on tattoos.

Only an extremely self-centered, controlling person would go off on an emotion-driven, irrational tirade against smokers, and then top it off with a comment like that about tattoos. Are people dying from second-hand tattoos or something? What was that about "Libertarian values"?

I have the perfect solution to your perceived problem: Get in your car and get on I-15 headed south. Keep driving until you hit water. You'll find a lot more people there that have the same irrational hatred that you've displayed here. You'll be right at home. Maybe you can share a joint rolled with unregulated, uncontrolled, untested and unfiltered marijuana while you complain about those "gross" cigarette smokers...

I left California to get away from people like you. If you don't like it here, LEAVE. This is Sin City. Get over it or get out.

[Isitmeorarethingsnuts?]

I wonder if there have ever been any studies done regarding casino workers/ life expectancy.

I've been going to Vegas for a VERY long time and still see many of the same people working there. For the life of me, I can't understand how they can still be alive. I would think that after 5 years of all that second hand smoke they would all be dead.

It's amazing to me that casino workers could survive this, yet you have people like the OP whose grandma died from second hand smoke having never smoked or drank in her life. I wonder how young she was.

[nevadaned]

Swagger I'm not saying you don't have a right to smoke I'm just saying that you shouldn't be able to harm other people with your nasty habit. The degree you go to justify smoking and how good It is is laughable. Nobody who isn't addicted to nicotine would agree with you.

And yes my gm did die from second hand smoke. She worked in electronics manufacturing for 50 years in a confined area where employees chain smoked all day every day. But thanks for trying to tell me about my gm's life. I'm on my phone or else I'd respond in more detail.

[ElleTea]

Iowa is a smoke free state...almost. (Smoking is still allowed in casinos.) I am not used to smelling smoke in public places, and as a former "band wife" I spent every weekend in bars. The difference after the smoking ban passed was amazing. Not just the smell but being able to SEE across a club or bar without looking through a haze. I love not smelling like an ashtray after sitting in a bar (especially in the hair UGH).

So I am usually pretty sensitive about the smell of smoke since I am not around it anymore. But I gotta say that when I was in Vegas a few weeks ago, the smell of smoke didn't bother me. I admit I didn's spend a LOT of time in the casinos, but I did walk through several and barely smelled smoke. I was actually suprised.

Have a smoke-free area doesn't work. It's like having a "no peeing" area in a pool. It still finds its way over.

And tattoos? What? What does that have to do with anything? Peircings must be OK

[nevadaned]

It has to do with everything. These people with tattoos all over, even on their neck look like criminals/wannabe criminals/ prior criminals. These are the same people who dress like criminals and wonder why nobody will hire them. The iq of people who both smoke and have tattoos has to be a good 20-25% than those without.