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Old 05-21-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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Since you do have a large pool and you get a lot of organic debris in your pool you can use tablets in the warm months and add liquid chlorine to bump it up to desired levels (prob 3ppm free chlor). This will reduce your consumption of liquid chlorine. The only problem you will have is you will increase your CYA by using the tabs and when you creep up to the 100PPM area then you have to dilute you water. You can add a backwash valve (via wasteline) to your pool and control your total CYA by Vacuuming to waste once a week in the months you use the tablets. This would probably be the cheapest method IMO.
If you remember our pool/yard organic debris was an absolute nightmare when you were taking care of the pool. Since then, we've removed all the pine trees from the yard, the association has trimmed up the pine trees on the bluff behind our yard and (thankfully) the house next door, down wind from us where it turns out most of the debris was coming from, sold and the new owner clear cut the entire yard.

We actually get relatively little organic debris in our pool anymore.
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Wow! The cells have come down in price! I will investigate this!
Apparently from what I've been reading they've come down thousands from where they were a few years ago.

On top of that, I've been reading up on the scaling issues associated with hard water on salt system. It seems by carefully maintaining pool chemistry you can greatly eliminate the issue. PH balance seems to be the key. I'm still researching the topic.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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If you remember our pool/yard organic debris was an absolute nightmare when you were taking care of the pool. Since then, we've removed all the pine trees from the yard, the association has trimmed up the pine trees on the bluff behind our yard and (thankfully) the house next door, down wind from us where it turns out most of the debris was coming from, sold and the new owner clear cut the entire yard.

We actually get relatively little organic debris in our pool anymore.
Wow, that is good news! It was pretty bad back then. Take a look at this website

Chlorine Genie Inc. The Ultimate Pool Chlorinator Let me know what you think. I know the local distributer for this product and it really works well. I've seen it in action on a commercial pool and its really great. Downside is cost like any salt water generation systems. But this one is the only one that you do not have to clean the cell and you do not add any salt to your pool. Salt water pools are alkaline and always a problem to keep PH under control.
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I can't say what's best, but I know what isn't: stabilized chlorine.

WestieJeff had a good post on the pros and cons of an SWG after living with it for a year or two. Do a search for it.
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Old 05-21-2016, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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There use to be a good option which was Chlorine gas(no cya). I use to use it until they banned it. You can still buy it but for most people it can be dangerous if you do not know what you are doing.

Other options are- Liquid chlorine (no cya), Calcium Hypo (no cya) use to come in tablets but only in granular form now. Lithium Hypo Chlor (not available anymore), Salt Water CL generation (no cya). All these are not stabilized forms.
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Old 05-21-2016, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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There use to be a good option which was Chlorine gas(no cya). I use to use it until they banned it. You can still buy it but for most people it can be dangerous if you do not know what you are doing.
I'd never in a million years consider handling and storing a cylinder of chlorine gas myself.

Pool Chlor sanitizes with gaseous chlorine, or at least they used to. In fact, they were the first pool service I ever used. They throw this thing that looks like a big rectangle made out of PVC tubing into your pool, turn on the gas, and out come the bubbles.
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I'd never in a million years consider handling and storing a cylinder of chlorine gas myself.

Pool Chlor sanitizes with gaseous chlorine, or at least they used to. In fact, they were the first pool service I ever used. They throw this thing that looks like a big rectangle made out of PVC tubing into your pool, turn on the gas, and out come the bubbles.
Yes everyone used it at one time if you have been around pools a long time. It was very cheap and effective.
There were ways to deliver it safely but most guys would not go that route. I do not think anyone in town uses this method unless its a large commercial pool. Commercial pools also use liquid electronic feeders for chlorine and acid. MGM pool back in 2010 had a feeder malfunction(liquid chlorine) and sent 26 people to the hospital for fumes.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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Wow, that is good news! It was pretty bad back then. Take a look at this website

Chlorine Genie Inc. The Ultimate Pool Chlorinator Let me know what you think. I know the local distributer for this product and it really works well. I've seen it in action on a commercial pool and its really great. Downside is cost like any salt water generation systems. But this one is the only one that you do not have to clean the cell and you do not add any salt to your pool. Salt water pools are alkaline and always a problem to keep PH under control.
What does a typical installation cost as a retrofit?


ALSO -- do you have an opinion on this? http://neverdrainyourpool.com/what-is-it/
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Old 05-22-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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What does a typical installation cost as a retrofit?


ALSO -- do you have an opinion on this? How It Works - Never Drain Your Pool... PuriPool!
No sure on costs but I think its around 3K. I've never installed one before but I've seen one working and it produces chlorinated water and drips into the pool at a regulated rate. There are guys that use the never drain you pool and it works, but I think the costs are higher than actually just draining the pool. Most people think when you drain a pool it goes to waste, but most of it is recycled via the water treatment plant. As long as you drain the pool to your sewer system and not the storm drain.
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