[MomMom]

Ummm..AZtoLV..olecapt was not being rude, just truthful.

He knows the city quite well, he's "in the business" so to speak and he don't have too much more "growing up" to do either.

One of LV's life lessons...if you think Olecapt is being rude, you're going to have to get a tougher skin to live here. We deal with folks, both rude and pleasant and anywhere in between, from all over the world on a daily basis. You'll have to get used to that.

Don't sweat this, do your research, take notes. Come back if and when you're ready to move here in that 3-5 year time span you mentioned.

Best of luck to you and your Mom.

[vegas_4u]

The Panorama Towers are flat out STUNNING. They are on their third tower I believe. The location is right across the I-15 from The Strip -- if you get an east facing unit, you will have panoramic views of the Las Vegas Strip... it is remarkable place.... hence called Panorama.... remember, your east facing unit view will NEVER be blocked at Panorama, because it is right next to the freeway. This has been a big problem for some in other high-rises, as new high-rises have blocked what once were panoramic views......

And the number of locals who live in Panorama vs. vacation homes is unknown to me.... but there are locals who live in the high-rise towers who can afford it...

I think Turnberry is a better location for access to the Strip, because you do not have to cross the I-15. Turnberry is already on the east side of the Strip, on Paradise Rd...

However, Turnberry is a quite bit further north, up around Sahara...and the towers are not as attractive in my opinion... I'd go for Panorama.... the views of the new City Center will be amazing once it is completed..

[AZtoLV]

Originally Posted by vegas_4u

The Panorama Towers are flat out STUNNING. They are on their third tower I believe. The location is right across the I-15 from The Strip -- if you get an east facing unit, you will have panoramic views of the Las Vegas Strip... it is remarkable place.... hence called Panorama.... remember, your view will NEVER be blocked by new high-rises on east facing units, because it faces the wide 8 lane I-15 freeway....

And the number of locals who live in Panorama vs. vacation homes is unknown to me.... but there are locals who live in the high-rise towers who can afford it...

I think Turnberry is a better location for access to the Strip, because you do not have to cross the I-15. Turnberry is already on the east side of the Strip, on Paradise Rd...

However, Turnberry is a quite bit further north, up around Sahara...and the towers are not as attractive in my opinion... I'd go for Panorama.... the views of the new City Center will be amazing once it is completed..

Thank You so much for that.
I really don't care if there are more vacation people than locals.It doesn't bother me.

I have been looking at Panorama and I love the views of the strip.

What is the new city center?

[vegas_4u]

Originally Posted by AZtoLV

Thank You so much for that.
I really don't care if there are more vacation people than locals.It doesn't bother me.

I have been looking at Panorama and I love the views of the strip.

What is the new city center?

City Center is the largest privately funded project in the USA, it is a whopper! $8 billion! Multiple high-rises, mixed use urban city within a city, and it is right across the freeway from Panorama.. check it out. Completion is late 2009..

Las Vegas Resort and Casino - CityCenter

[RandalR]

Originally Posted by AZtoLV

Are the other towers such as Turnberry,Sky Las Vegas,and Allure in better areas?

I live at Turnberry Place - when I'm in town. I work in San Francisco, so I'm not there as often as I would like. Some observations on Turnberry and Las Vegas in general:

> As Olecapt said, the vast majority of Turnberry residents own properties in two or more cities, and are only at home in the towers occasionally. Many are retired. Except for a few high-end real estate agents and mortgage brokers, almost no Turnberry residents have actual jobs in the Las Vegas valley.

> You'll meet interesting people at Turnberry (and I imagine in the other towers, as well), but it's not a community in the traditional sense - more like a vacation resort where you see some familiar faces once in a while.

> The HOA fees at Turnberry are as high as rents for similar-sized properties in outlying areas. Part of that is the monthly dues for the private, on-site Stirling Club - which is great and sets Turnberry Place above all of its more pedestrian competitors. But if you want to live in any Strip-area high-rise, bring lots of money - the fees alone will cost you more than staying one week per month in a nice hotel.

> The neighborhood around Turnberry isn't exactly "safe" to walk around in after dark - especially for women by themselves - but it isn't especially bad, either, at least compared to some of the high-crime areas less than a mile away. It's like walking in any other part of the North Strip at night. Not many people go out running on Paradise, anyway - they just hit the treadmills at the Stirling Club. Turnberry itself, of course, is almost bullet-proof safe - a nice, gated enclave which many people never even leave during their stays in town.

> Most people drive in and out of Turnberry, anyway - even across the street to the Hilton. It's an easy drive over to Wynn, which is where I usually park for Strip excursions. When Fontainebleau and Echelon are done, the area will be nicer.

> When I'm in town, I prefer to do my grocery shopping and other errands twelve miles away in Summerlin rather than going to nearby stores within two or three miles of the Strip. Draw your own conclusions.

> Strip nightlife is highly overrated - unless you are a pseudo-celebrity/drug dealer from L.A. or an attractive young woman with a huge ego who likes having a venue specifically designed for you to display your wares to an admiring crowd of losers. The clubs are set up to cater to those two audiences - in order to take vast amounts of money from everyone else. Nightlife is no reason to move to Las Vegas, because you'll get tired of the empty cynicism beneath the glittering exterior in a big hurry.

> The local job market is not rewarding for business professionals. Expect to make no more than 50-60% of what you could get in California or Arizona. There's a reason those rents look low - and it isn't just the cockroaches. Too many firms don't want the stigma of having "Las Vegas" on their business cards, so I don't expect the situation to change much in spite of the tax advantages Nevada offers.

So for anyone who is thinking about moving to Las Vegas, have a good reason other than that you think it looks like a cool place to live.

[olecapt]

A fine review of the area.

I agree fully that Las Vegas lacks the heavy employers. An obvious and real limitation. Does not however read on the overall employment situation. The 50 to 60% however is incorrect. The positions don't pay less...they just don't exist.

My favorite remains the high rise in the LVCC. While the building is a lttle dated some of the units are spectacular. Again high HOA fees. But the nice thing about LVCC is one can walk after dark even though quite close to the strip.

[PinkString]

If olecapt needs to grow up, then we are all in serious trouble,, since he's the oldest one in here! lol

[AZtoLV]

Thank You to the people who helped.

[AZtoLV]

Any more advice?
Yes,No,Maybe so?

[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by PinkString

If olecapt needs to grow up, then we are all in serious trouble,, since he's the oldest one in here! lol

Not certain but I think I have him beat......