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Old 12-05-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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Wow, didn't expect this. Las Vegas is rated #10 for murders so far in 2017 (not counting 1st October massacre)! #1 is St. Louis!


https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mur...&ad_id=7314750

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Old 12-05-2017, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Moved to Vegas from Vienna
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I guess lots of this is related to drugs and prostitution. Therefore, not very relevant for the average person living in Vegas. Also, 45 million visitors per year are part of this statistics increasing the rates of the town.
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Old 12-05-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Wow, didn't expect this. Las Vegas is rated #10 for murders so far in 2017 (not counting 1st October massacre)! #1 is St. Louis!


https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mur...&ad_id=7314750

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Does not seem to compute. The Valley, without the Oct 1 shooting, was on target to duplicate last year with about 9 per 100,000. The numbers listed would appear to be City of Las Vegas which are virtually impossible to sort out from any source I know of and would make little sense as they would remove the strip etc.
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Old 12-05-2017, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I think the vast majority would be domestic related incidents (if not the majority than at least a significant percent).

Probably 95% of homocides here are related to who you know rather than random acts of violence.

Strip shooting excluded ofcourse.

Maybe the murder rate in some of the other cities dropped so even though we were about the same as last year that bimped Las Vegas up the list.
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Too many people get scared off by looking at a city's murder rate, given the majority of the murders are people who knew the victim. When it comes to married couples, it's been well-proven, historically, 80% of the time a spouse is killed, the other spouse was involved in some way or another. So don't be surprised if husband comes home some night, after work, finds wife laying in a pool of blood in a bedroom. Yup! 10 police officers show up, and 8 will have Guilty stamped on their foreheads!

I've never been put off by the murder rate in Tijuana, which I've frequented so often, knowing all too well, it's not tourists getting murdered, it's people knowing someone else.

When I was traveling in El Salvador, highest murder rate in Latin America, I traveled around that country completely calm, knowing, once again, I wasn't going to be targeted.
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Old 12-06-2017, 05:12 AM
 
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Too many people get scared off by looking at a city's murder rate, given the majority of the murders are people who knew the victim. When it comes to married couples, it's been well-proven, historically, 80% of the time a spouse is killed, the other spouse was involved in some way or another. So don't be surprised if husband comes home some night, after work, finds wife laying in a pool of blood in a bedroom. Yup! 10 police officers show up, and 8 will have Guilty stamped on their foreheads!

I've never been put off by the murder rate in Tijuana, which I've frequented so often, knowing all too well, it's not tourists getting murdered, it's people knowing someone else.

When I was traveling in El Salvador, highest murder rate in Latin America, I traveled around that country completely calm, knowing, once again, I wasn't going to be targeted.
I don't understand your statement that 8 of 10 have guilty stamped on your head? Of course, you must certainly realize Mexico us under Napoleonic law, in Mexico you are presumed guilty until proven innocent, right?
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I don't understand your statement that 8 of 10 have guilty stamped on your head? Of course, you must certainly realize Mexico us under Napoleonic law, in Mexico you are presumed guilty until proven innocent, right?
Over my 67 years, I've read enough True Crime books, that, stacked up, could reach the top of the Stratosphere Tower, and it scared me to learn, that when a spouse is killed, history steps forth with those statistics. Women oftentimes hire someone to do it.

And, also proven, if this nightmare should happen to you, going home some night to find a spouse killed in your house, that those who readily speak to the police, at the crime scene, are generally the most suspicious suspects.

No matter how innocent you are, what proof you can provide you weren't there when it happened, show your intelligence and immediately call an attorney, and say not one word to the police!
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Over my 67 years, I've read enough True Crime books, that, stacked up, could reach the top of the Stratosphere Tower, and it scared me to learn, that when a spouse is killed, history steps forth with those statistics. Women oftentimes hire someone to do it.

And, also proven, if this nightmare should happen to you, going home some night to find a spouse killed in your house, that those who readily speak to the police, at the crime scene, are generally the most suspicious suspects.

No matter how innocent you are, what proof you can provide you weren't there when it happened, show your intelligence and immediately call an attorney, and say not one word to the police!
Nonsense. All you have to do is tell them that "the one armed man killed my wife"... If you didn't know that, then you need to read more books.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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Over my 67 years, I've read enough True Crime books, that, stacked up, could reach the top of the Stratosphere Tower, and it scared me to learn, that when a spouse is killed, history steps forth with those statistics. Women oftentimes hire someone to do it.

And, also proven, if this nightmare should happen to you, going home some night to find a spouse killed in your house, that those who readily speak to the police, at the crime scene, are generally the most suspicious suspects.

No matter how innocent you are, what proof you can provide you weren't there when it happened, show your intelligence and immediately call an attorney, and say not one word to the police!
You're 67? Unless there's another Mexican guy downtown that walks a weasel on a leash, you're a young looking 67. Congratulations.
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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I lived in St. Louis for 4.5 years. I never could put my finger on it but to me it was the most depressing place I have ever lived. Emphasizing "I ever lived". I just didn't like it there. There were some very nice parts to it (which I couldn't afford to live) etc but I just was never comfortable there.
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