[RationalExpectations]

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

45% discount for residents.

I would not describe it as residents get a discount.

I would describe it as Non-resident vacation homeowners pay over double. I know, #firstworldproblems.

[RationalExpectations]

Originally Posted by tijlover

I had a 15 acre weekend escape 65 miles north of Minneapolis for 10 years. My place was right out of Mother Earth News, no electricity, no running water, no phone, and an outhouse.

Sounds wonderful - like where my mom grew up. By the time she went away to nursing school, her home still had neither electricity nor indoor plumbing. Want to take a bath? Go get water from the well (or snow) and heat it on the coal-fired stove.

Originally Posted by tijlover

The problem when you have a 2nd property like that is you have no voting rights in that county, so they punish the weekenders as we have no say in the matter. MN is home to 10K lakes and it's almost expected of you to have a weekend lake place in MN and they tax the hell out of you. Without any infrastructure I was paying over $1k a year in taxes. And? Why did I sell? They were mandating septic systems, as outhouses are now banned in the country which would have cost me around $6k. No thanks! For Sale! Sold!

I've read that some counties allow non-residents to vote on local property tax elections.

This country was founded based on the mantra of "No Taxation Without Representation." I really think the modern system of denying property owners a vote on property taxes is, well, misguided at best.

[BGS91762]

Originally Posted by 08grad

You're not wrong, Vegas isnt affordable anymore. But CA is not the place to go for value, especially not the Inland Empire.

Schools are just as bad as Vegas and you're dealing with LA traffic when you want to head to work/entertainment. Infrastructure/roads are in worse condition. Housing stock is older and many places have not been maintained. Weather is only marginally better - still stupid hot in summers, poor air quality.

Your best bet for affordable housing is the Midwest, but good paying jobs are impossible to find.

Believe me the IE weather is not even close to LV. Much cooler in the summer especially in the evenings and much nicer in the winter. Love living right next to LA and OC too .

[waltchan]

Originally Posted by BGS91762

Believe me the IE weather is not even close to LV. Much cooler in the summer especially in the evenings and much nicer in the winter. Love living right next to LA and OC too .

And Moreno Valley, CA is known for excellent value, already much cheaper (or close) than Las Vegas now.

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

I would not describe it as residents get a discount.

I would describe it as Non-resident vacation homeowners pay over double. I know, #firstworldproblems.

If you want to split hairs, it is officially an exemption. From utah.gov

Residential properties that serve as someone’s primary residence receive an exemption of 45% of fair market value.

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by waltchan

And Moreno Valley, CA is known for excellent value, already much cheaper (or close) than Las Vegas now.

The smog makes it unlivable. For truly excellent value, take a close look at Baker CA.

[waltchan]

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

The smog makes it unlivable. For truly excellent value, take a close look at Baker CA.

Or Beaumont, CA, already cheaper than Las Vegas. Excellent weather at 2,500 ft. elevation, higher than Las Vegas.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

The smog makes it unlivable. For truly excellent value, take a close look at Baker CA.

You're joking, I presume? Baker is, for all intents and purposes, an extension of Las Vegas. It's a highway stop an hour away. Same distance to Las Vegas as Mesquite, just lacking casinos.

Originally Posted by waltchan

Or Beaumont, CA, already cheaper than Las Vegas. Excellent weather at 2,500 ft. elevation, higher than Las Vegas.

Beaumont is a good choice. It's close to Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead, the casinos in Palm Springs are 20 minutes away. LA and Orange County beaches are 1.5 hours, San Diego is 2 hours.

It's an overlooked gem for retirees in California. A lot of people from the Bay Area retire to the Inland Empire of So Cal, as an alternative to Sacramento.

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

You're joking, I presume? Baker is, for all intents and purposes, an extension of Las Vegas. It's a highway stop an hour away. Same distance to Las Vegas as Mesquite, just lacking casinos.



Beaumont is a good choice. It's close to Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead, the casinos in Palm Springs are 20 minutes away. LA and Orange County beaches are 1.5 hours, San Diego is 2 hours.

It's an overlooked gem for retirees in California. A lot of people from the Bay Area retire to the Inland Empire of So Cal, as an alternative to Sacramento.

Baker is the gateway to the budding metropolis of Victorville, which will soon be linked to Las Vegas by high speed rail. Time is running out to snap up bargains.

[BGS91762]

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

The smog makes it unlivable. For truly excellent value, take a close look at Baker CA.

Have you been to Moreno Valley in the past 20 years. The smog is no worse than LV. Much better than SLC in the winter.