[Katie the heartbreaker]

Originally Posted by alliance

You confuse me. Didn’t you say you’re a liberal in another thread...?

I am a liberal in the sense that I support higher taxes to have strong safety nets. Otherwise, I align most strongly with the libertarians. I am pro freedom, pro choice, socially liberal, pro gun. I am not a snowflake liberal that watches MSNBC and supports Joe Bidden.

[Katie the heartbreaker]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Of course you are a threat to me. The threat from any one person is small but from you and your ilk it can be good sized. It may be fourth or fifth hand but it can and will happen.

So we all work to shut it down or don't and kill people.

It is very easy. Stay home and order your groceries online and have it delivered. When it comes, wear gloves and a mask and then sanitize it. You and your wife should stay home and not leave or have anyone over until it passes. No one here wants you to get sick.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

It is very easy. Stay home and order your groceries online and have it delivered. When it comes, wear gloves and a mask and then sanitize it. You and your wife should stay home and not leave or have anyone over until it passes. No one here wants you to get sick.

And our half dozen active clients? The deal 13 days from closing? (Interesting in that involves a Dr. involved in the virus though at a level that makes patient contact unlikely)

So we will continue while minimizing contact. But full hermitage is not feasible.

[Katie the heartbreaker]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Of course you are a threat to me. The threat from any one person is small but from you and your ilk it can be good sized. It may be fourth or fifth hand but it can and will happen.

So we all work to shut it down or don't and kill people.

Originally Posted by lvmensch

And our half dozen active clients? The deal 13 days from closing? (Interesting in that involves a Dr. involved in the virus though at a level that makes patient contact unlikely)

So we will continue while minimizing contact. But full hermitage is not feasible.

What is more important to you, making more money or your life? From reading your former posts, you certainly don't need the money, but there are many people who do. By shutting down the city, many people in the lower to middle class are going to be absolutely destroyed by this. I was very smart to live below my means, even on the tiny income I have, so I put away over a 1 year emergency fund. Most people do not have the foresight to do that regardless of income, so we need to way risk vs reward on stopping the virus vs the economic devastation caused by stopping the virus.

[johninvegas]

Everything I've heard from knowledgeable sources say that the thing you want to do is flatten out the curve of infection so that the hospitals can handle the people who need to be intubated, so it's good to limit exposure, especially by children who are literally virus factories (they go to school, get infected, then give it to their families, who in turn give it to the neighbors, etc). Unfortunately, we don't know how long this virus will hang around, even if "non-essential" events and businesses are shut down.

The problem I see with shutting everything down all at once is that once they lift the closure orders, everyone will be so stir crazy that they will all go out dining, attending sports, going to casinos, etc., which will end up infecting everyone all at once, thereby overwhelming the hospitals and causing exactly what they are trying to prevent.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

What is more important to you, making more money or your life? From reading your former posts, you certainly don't need the money, but there are many people who do. By shutting down the city, many people in the lower to middle class are going to be absolutely destroyed by this. I was very smart to live below my means, even on the tiny income I have, so I put away over a 1 year emergency fund. Most people do not have the foresight to do that regardless of income, so we need to way risk vs reward on stopping the virus vs the economic devastation caused by stopping the virus.

Nothing to do with income. And some of the clients do not happen to be lucrative. The problem is that we made implied commitments to people and we do not wish to dump those. Would we risk our lives to fulfill those? No but this is a much lower level of risk. And we will avoid anything that potentially could add to our risk or that of others. Getting good at elbow knocks.

[EA]

Can't be a libertarian and want the government to do anything like provide social safety nets.

[BBMW]

I don't think the casinos are fighting this too hard. They know that the virus panic is going to crush business. They might be financially better off closed unit it burns itself out.

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by EA

Can't be a libertarian and want the government to do anything like provide social safety nets.

Not true. Libertarians don't believe in no safety nets. Just essentially weak ones with slack being handled by private entities.

[CD2017]

Originally Posted by johninvegas

Everything I've heard from knowledgeable sources say that the thing you want to do is flatten out the curve of infection so that the hospitals can handle the people who need to be intubated, so it's good to limit exposure, especially by children who are literally virus factories (they go to school, get infected, then give it to their families, who in turn give it to the neighbors, etc). Unfortunately, we don't know how long this virus will hang around, even if "non-essential" events and businesses are shut down.

The problem I see with shutting everything down all at once is that once they lift the closure orders, everyone will be so stir crazy that they will all go out dining, attending sports, going to casinos, etc., which will end up infecting everyone all at once, thereby overwhelming the hospitals and causing exactly what they are trying to prevent.

I don't think you realize the number of cases that are still going to happen, even with all the restrictions in place. Plenty of people will get infected over the next 4-8 weeks, just nowhere near as many if we had few or no restrictions.

Plus, we will have more ventilators and other medical supplies sooner than later to ease that demand too.