Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Long Island
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-11-2013, 09:34 PM
 
147 posts, read 433,574 times
Reputation: 41

Advertisements

Hey guys, we are thinking about buying in jericho and as we all know, the average property tax there is about $15k of which probably $10k goes to the schools.

Now I believe the property taxes are deductible when we do our taxes at the end of the year but if so, do we get savings based on the total $15k number or just the $5k number and school taxes are not included.

Anybody knows if savings are based on the full taxes paid?

Also, how much income taxes are we savings by moving out of NYC, 4% ?

Thanks.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-11-2013, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
9,933 posts, read 23,148,514 times
Reputation: 5910
Quote:
Originally Posted by ziggyziggy View Post
Hey guys, we are thinking about buying in jericho and as we all know, the average property tax there is about $15k of which probably $10k goes to the schools.

Now I believe the property taxes are deductible when we do our taxes at the end of the year but if so, do we get savings based on the total $15k number or just the $5k number and school taxes are not included.

Anybody knows if savings are based on the full taxes paid?

Also, how much income taxes are we savings by moving out of NYC, 4% ?

Thanks.

All real estate taxes are eligible deductions (school and general). The actual savings depend on your individual situation, i.e. adjusted gross income and total itemized deductions.

The best way to judge how much you're saving in NYC income taxes would be to look at last year's tax return
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 07:13 AM
 
344 posts, read 717,709 times
Reputation: 210
Beware the AMT. If you are in AMT land you will not be able to reap the full benefits of property tax deductions.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 08:23 AM
 
703 posts, read 1,173,736 times
Reputation: 389
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytos View Post
Beware the AMT. If you are in AMT land you will not be able to reap the full benefits of property tax deductions.
So true. But you will get a mortgage deduction. When we moved out of NYC the savings from the income tax completely offset the property taxes on our house.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 08:28 AM
 
106,637 posts, read 108,790,719 times
Reputation: 80122
If you are a couple the standard deduction is 12,800.

Add up all your deductions from schedule a , assuming you do not trigger the amt your taxes will only reflect a difference in the amount over the standard deduction.

Basically the first 12,800 in deductions you have don't count.

don't make the mistake thinking you will see a difference on your total deductions.

only after subtracting out 12,800 will it count towards any difference.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 12:22 PM
bg7
 
7,694 posts, read 10,557,894 times
Reputation: 15300
AMT will sink it if you are in that bracket
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 02:14 PM
 
147 posts, read 433,574 times
Reputation: 41
whats AMT?

Also does it mean that we can only deduct up to 12,800 of property taxes? Does that mean someone with 12,800 of property taxes and someone with 15,000 of property taxes yield the same benefit?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 02:28 PM
 
106,637 posts, read 108,790,719 times
Reputation: 80122
it means that everyone, whether a homeowner or renter gets the same allowance of 12,800 in deductions as a standard deduction if they are a couple..

if all your schedule A deductions come to 15,000 you get the first 12,800 any way even if you did not spent any money for mortgage interest and real estate taxes so the only deductions that will effect your taxes is what is above that.

in this example you would have 2,200 over and above the standard deduction to write off. in the 25% tax bracket that would give you back an extra 1200 bucks in real dollars you would see.

a far cry from what most people think when they buy a home but they forget they have to exceed 12,800 to see any difference from buying.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 07:05 PM
 
341 posts, read 1,535,561 times
Reputation: 256
Quote:
Originally Posted by mathjak107 View Post

a far cry from what most people think when they buy a home but they forget they have to exceed 12,800 to see any difference from buying.
That's assuming your property taxes were your ONLY deduction. Assuming you finance the house, you can also deduct your mortgage insurance (400K loan might get cost you an easy 18-20K a year in interest early on). Along with this, there are charity deductions and the loads of others an accountant might tell you about.

So while yes, your property taxes THEMSELVES might not put you much over the standard deduction, I'd suspect that it's pretty uncommon that your PT are your ONLY deduction, no?

So, 15K property taxes and 20K mortgage interest gets you almost 9K back.

THis is a long way toward saying ASK YOUR ACCOUNTANT.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-12-2013, 07:22 PM
 
69 posts, read 210,881 times
Reputation: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by ziggyziggy View Post
Hey guys, we are thinking about buying in jericho and as we all know, the average property tax there is about $15k of which probably $10k goes to the schools.

Now I believe the property taxes are deductible when we do our taxes at the end of the year but if so, do we get savings based on the total $15k number or just the $5k number and school taxes are not included.

Anybody knows if savings are based on the full taxes paid?

Also, how much income taxes are we savings by moving out of NYC, 4% ?

Thanks.
If you file your tax return through an accountant, you can ask your accountant. Not sure if there is any online calculator on this. If not, you may run some tax preparation software to get some idea about the numbers.

However, it may not be a good idea to buy a house just because you can deduct property taxes and mortgage interests from income taxes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Long Island

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top