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Well, who else is "guilty," as per your comment "LI is unattainable or as "out of reach" as many try to represent it here?" You make it sound like that's a big thing on LI CD and everyone says it. Ironically, it's the ex-pats who post things like this while bragging about how cheap it is in their new location.
You're right that ex-pats are guilty of that bigtime, but I see it from some defensive LIers, too... you know, the "couldn't hack it" stuff. I wasn't calling you out on that.
Sounds like its a done deal to me, you guys should have it by 2017 from what I read. Up to 1000 mb/s download speed, which is insane.
If they can maintain these prices: https://support.google.com/fiber/answer/2657118?hl=en ($70 for internet) for our metro areas too then it will be a good deal. Right now we pay about $110 for triple play - I think I can swallow $130 for gigabit internet + tv instead. And maybe by then I will have gotten with the times and even have a smart tv.
Actually, Cleveland is still losing population and has a lot of problems in its outlying areas, but they cleaned up the downtown rather nice. If I was just out of school, I would undoubtedly choose downtown Cleveland over living in some illegal converted basement in souless Long Island.
Downtown Cleveland is a city. Long Island is a suburb. Why is LI soulless?
The traffic, the rude people, the lack of green space. Can't wait to plow through the Holland Tunnel to get back out. I feel like a rat in a cage here. Don't believe the people that say you will feel homesick once you leave here. Don't feel homesick one bit! In fact, the relatives will have to visit me next year. Just loving my new home with the mountains, the parks, the wide open space, the availability of jobs within a half an hour of my house, and most of all the reasonable property taxes!
Coming up there 2/1 and will be there for a week. Not looking forward to the weather. It's 70 down here now.
It was a living hell for me from the age of 5 until I left for college at 18. Were it not for the fact that my parents still live there, I would leave and never return again.
There is a lot of discussion on here about how much you save in property taxes after moving off of Long Island. Another major consideration is how much time you save in commuting and sitting in traffic. I used to know people who would commute EVERY DAY from easy of Ronkonkoma. INSANE! Here is another comment in another thread. It is so on point:
"You would have to go out of your way to push your daily commute to an hour in Pittsburgh.
The average Pittsburgh commute (and I'm talking suburbs to the city) is less than 30 minutes, pretty much regardless of where you choose to live.
It's extremely refreshing for transplanted New Yorkers. A couple of colleagues of mine who moved from NYC to Pittsburgh bought themselves a nice big house in Cranberry. The commute from their 1-bedroom rental deep into New Jersey was close to 90 minutes on a good day. Their commute now from their 5-bedroom house with a swimming pool is 35 minutes.
They still can't understand why their new Pittsburgh colleagues ask them why they live "so far away" in Cranberry."
There is a lot of discussion on here about how much you save in property taxes after moving off of Long Island. Another major consideration is how much time you save in commuting and sitting in traffic. I used to know people who would commute EVERY DAY from easy of Ronkonkoma. INSANE! Here is another comment in another thread. It is so on point:
"You would have to go out of your way to push your daily commute to an hour in Pittsburgh.
The average Pittsburgh commute (and I'm talking suburbs to the city) is less than 30 minutes, pretty much regardless of where you choose to live.
It's extremely refreshing for transplanted New Yorkers. A couple of colleagues of mine who moved from NYC to Pittsburgh bought themselves a nice big house in Cranberry. The commute from their 1-bedroom rental deep into New Jersey was close to 90 minutes on a good day. Their commute now from their 5-bedroom house with a swimming pool is 35 minutes.
They still can't understand why their new Pittsburgh colleagues ask them why they live "so far away" in Cranberry."
The time saved argument is relative.
I was looking into buying a place upstate. We stayed up in our area of choice for two weeks last summer. While it was beautiful and peaceful and the rat-race induced stress was reduced to a minimum, what we learned whilst being up there was that while traffic sucks, we still had to drive a great deal every time we wanted to do something. So yea, traffic sucks, but Cub Scouts are 2 minutes away, little league is 5 minutes away, school is 3 minutes away, bread and milk are 4 minutes away, church is right here, etc etc etc...the time shaved off your daily work commute comes back tenfold on your personal time.
This example applies to rural re-locations only and especially affects those with young kids. YMMV.
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