What are your thoughts on race relations on Long Island and how do you think we can improve them? (New York: sex offenders, how much)
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Pomerantz is one of five current or former students at Great Neck-area public and private high schools charged with accepting payments of between $500 and $3,600 to impersonate other students on SAT and ACT college entrance exams.
You will see that students in China and South Korea are cheating on their SATs too. Ooh ... I thought they were so much more brilliant than whitey (according to so many on LI CD) that they could WRITE SATs? How did this happen?
Well, just more evidence that the Chinese and South Koreans fit in well in Great Neck and its environs.
Wow, South Korean kids are so crooked they had to cancel the SATs for the ENTIRE COUNTRY:
The May 4 SAT exam was cancelled in South Korea after allegations of widespread cheating surfaced. Some 1,500 South Korean students had been signed up for the exam, hoping to use their scores to gain admittance to American universities.
The College Board, the organization that oversees the SATs, and Educational Testing Service (ETS), which develops and scores the test, cancelled the exam after learning that tutoring companies allegedly obtained and distributed the test illegally.
And the tutoring companies are just as crooked! Just one more service to add on to attract more business, eh?
Not true. Come drive through North Valley Stream where most of the blacks in VS live. Houses are immaculately kept just like when the Jews and Italians lived there.
Valley Stream's Hispanic citizens are business owners and professionals across the board. They keep their houses well too. There are no illegal alien flophouses. No room here for that type of nonsense and they know it. I find it funny how whites on LI just assume all Hispanics are "problems" just by looking at them, yet the middle class and above ones have assimilated into American society fine.
Excellent point! I feel the same way...once someone hears that I am Hispanic, they give me the most bewildered look. I often feel people are shocked that we aren't poor, come from post- educated backgrounds, have excellent careers etc. People will then say the old "well, you don't look Hispanic." What exactly is that supposed to mean?
Excellent point! I feel the same way...once someone hears that I am Hispanic, they give me the most bewildered look. I often feel people are shocked that we aren't poor, come from post- educated backgrounds, have excellent careers etc. People will then say the old "well, you don't look Hispanic." What exactly is that supposed to mean?
Its all about behavior. Places like Valley Stream and New Hyde Park are very diverse, many folks from alot of different ethnicities respresented there, well kept homes, low crime, no problems with loitering.
Then you have places like Hempstead, Roosevelt, and parts of Westbury that are full of illegals and thugs that just hang around all day & night drinking, joining gangs, and trashing the community.
Unfortunately people will drive through and paint the races of people they see there in a bad light.
But there's plenty of educated folks from these races who don't act like that! And just like anyone else, they do not want to live in a community with the classic "stereotypes" of their race. But then the RE people make it hard for some of these folks. I still think racism is prevalant in many LI Communities, particularly in the mostly white communities, particularly in SE Nassau. They associate people of other races with places like Hempstead.
The Block-Busting that was brought up in this thread is still happening today. Real Estate folks steer minorities into areas in decline to keep them from moving into the white areas. Just because someone isn't white shouldn't mean they should be forced to live in a problem community!
Long Island is very segregated, Nassau moreso than Suffolk. As I've griped about before, most of the nicer areas on LI are reserved for those that are WHITE and RICH. And how do you expect struggling folks to get ahead when they are kept from communities where there's more opportunities and transportation?
We all deserve to live in a safe community where we can feel comfortable living, and it shouldn't just be reserved for those with higher incomes and lighter skin.
I'm tired of seeing more & more LI communities such as Bellmore out of reach for many, while others are just dumped on like mine and others. Been to Hicksville LIRR lately? It has now become a dumping ground for all the bums & vagrants, getting worse and worse. Most of them are white too.
I dont care what color one's skin is. What I do care about is respect for the community. If you act like a thug, hang out and drink booze all the time, and treat the street like a toilet I am not going to look fondly on you, and race has absolutely nothing to do with it.
These people you describe expect you to be like the people I just described. Probably they came from some lily-white community on the Riviera. The other day I overheard someone say Carle Place is a ghetto while I was at Arbys! Just goes to show you how narrow-minded some folks are. No wonder I am not welcome in that town (Bellmore), but its a shame because they get the best train service and convienent everything...not saying they deserve it by trying to keep ppl like me who need that stuff out...
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Excellent point! I feel the same way...once someone hears that I am Hispanic, they give me the most bewildered look. I often feel people are shocked that we aren't poor, come from post- educated backgrounds, have excellent careers etc. People will then say the old "well, you don't look Hispanic." What exactly is that supposed to mean?
I've head that, too, from well-educated people. With the increase in people crossing the southern border, many are associating Hispanic with darker-toned individuals who are a combination of indigenous and Spanish ancestry.
Long Island is very segregated, Nassau moreso than Suffolk. As I've griped about before, most of the nicer areas on LI are reserved for those that are WHITE and RICH. And how do you expect struggling folks to get ahead when they are kept from communities where there's more opportunities and transportation?
We all deserve to live in a safe community where we can feel comfortable living, and it shouldn't just be reserved for those with higher incomes and lighter skin.
So what you're saying is that if someone works hard to better themselves and their living conditions (in this case a nice home in a safe, community) that they should live adjacent to those who (for whatever reason) don't have the means to live in the same area? What would be the incentive for working hard if an individual will have nothing to show for it?
People toss out the word segregation, applying it to white people, yet they have no issue with other minority groups seeking to self-segregate. Why is that?
Why is it that the communities that aren't 'white and rich' are unsafe? You do realize that almost 78% of the people in the US are white, don't you? Most communities will have a higher number of white people for that reason alone.
Look at poverty rates when you want to discuss safe vs. unsafe communities. That is where the issue lies. Many minority politicians have risen from poverty to higher office and rank. Look at the doctors, lawyers, teachers, who have risen from the projects or poor, rural areas. What made them different? They had access to the same policies that inner city and poor children across the US have today. They chose to take full advantage of the opportunity to achieve success. Do you think that they would want to return to the unsafe communities they grew up in? No! Once a certain level of education and success is achieved, green is the only color that matters when buying a home.
What is preventing the poor communities from being safe? Generational welfare, broken homes, not placing value on education, the desire for a quick buck, bad role models, hatred for 'the man' -- just a few of the things holding the people in these communities back. Should they be rewarded with a home in the suburbs? What do you think would happen?
The area you cited in Hicksville, near the LIRR wasn't always like that. When I worked on West John Street 30+ years ago, the houses were small, yards tidy, but you could sense that this was the poor part of town. Today you describe it as a dumping ground for 'bums and vagrants'. How much of that was brought about by absentee landlords? And if these landlords accepted people on programs, why can't either the landlord or the people on the program keep their yards clean? Doesn't take much.
Why are those 'bums and vagrants' there? Accessibility to transportation, facilities for their medical needs? Wasn't one of your parameters 'more opportunities and transportation'?
Look, I deserve to live in a waterfront home in Lloyd Harbor with a spectacular view of the Sound and CT even though I didn't EARN it.
Seriously, John, I know you've had problems in Westbury and I do feel for you and wish that you could get housing in a better place, however, I think you're looking at the topic from a very self-centered point of view, without looking into the completely socialistic society you would impose on the rest of us.
I've head that, too, from well-educated people. With the increase in people crossing the southern border, many are associating Hispanic with darker-toned individuals who are a combination of indigenous and Spanish ancestry.
The vast majority of Hispanics in the US and Latin America are Mestizo, so of course the term "Hispanic" will be associated with Mestizos primarily. And there's nothing wrong with being Mestizo.
John, Herricks SD is over 55% Asian now. Very safe area to live in. Real estate isn't reserved for anyone. Sociological factors come into play. I'm not going to move my family into Roosevelt just to balance out towns so you can have a better shot with public transportation. You're talking all the time about what's bringing your neighborhood down. Do you really think rich, white folks are to blame for that?
I haven't seen my exact opinion on race relations expressed, so I'll throw it into the ring. My chief concerns as a homeowner on LI (and future parent) are safety, security, affordability, and an environment where we can thrive as a family. If the neighborhood I live in provides all of these elements, then the races of my neighbors is irrelevant.
When my kids are in school, I don't need or want them to be surrounded only by people of their race/culture/socioeconomic backgrounds - I want them to see people of all types, because that's a better representation of what they'll encounter in real life and because it can help shape their views as a person. They should know that not every family has two parents, not every family has dinner on the table every night, not every family can afford Christmas presents - and on the other end of the spectrum, they should see that there are families out there that will have more than us.
I don't think surrounding your kid with other rich, successful children inherently makes them more successful. In fact, I think it can have the opposite effect. BUT they should have access to the things that can make them successful. And they shouldn't have to fear for their safety in an unreasonable capacity. Being able to play on the front lawn or walk the dog down the block at dusk should NOT have you fearing for your life and I don't think anyone should have to live that way.
John, Herricks SD is over 55% Asian now. Very safe area to live in. Real estate isn't reserved for anyone. Sociological factors come into play. I'm not going to move my family into Roosevelt just to balance out towns so you can have a better shot with public transportation. You're talking all the time about what's bringing your neighborhood down. Do you really think rich, white folks are to blame for that?
Like I said, there are diverse towns that are very nice places, Herricks among them. Still it is very expensive.
Politicians are to blame for depressed communities. Look at this whole illegal immigration problem, the failure to enforce the law goes back to the Government, which is influenced by the rich and powerful (mostly white) to keep them here for cheap labor or votes.
Look at all the new arrivals of "unaccompanied" children, where are they being dumped? Into communities like Hempstead already overwhelmed by the influx!
Then you have unequal enforcement of housing codes, what may be tolerated in Hicksville won't be tolerated in Syosset, even though they are both in the Town of Oyster Bay.
Only just recently has the Town of North Hempstead announced crackdowns on illegal housing in New Cassel, and it is about time they follow the same rules in New Cassel as they do in Manhasset!
I'm not talking about "balancing out towns", I'm talking about the changes Long Island has undergone that relate to the erosion of the Middle Class, as "ghettos" spread and the safer, nicer areas get more & more expensive. Supply and Demand...as supply shrinks and demand rises, prices go through the roof making it harder for those who aren't rich to afford.
There's plenty of good people that are stuck in bad neighborhoods and these changes make it harder for them. There's a book that talks about this problem people face and I think many should read it. https://books.google.com/books?id=ii...**hole&f=false
Like I said, there are diverse towns that are very nice places, Herricks among them. Still it is very expensive.
Politicians are to blame for depressed communities. Look at this whole illegal immigration problem, the failure to enforce the law goes back to the Government, which is influenced by the rich and powerful (mostly white) to keep them here for cheap labor or votes.
Look at all the new arrivals of "unaccompanied" children, where are they being dumped? Into communities like Hempstead already overwhelmed by the influx!
Then you have unequal enforcement of housing codes, what may be tolerated in Hicksville won't be tolerated in Syosset, even though they are both in the Town of Oyster Bay.
Only just recently has the Town of North Hempstead announced crackdowns on illegal housing in New Cassel, and it is about time they follow the same rules in New Cassel as they do in Manhasset!
I'm not talking about "balancing out towns", I'm talking about the changes Long Island has undergone that relate to the erosion of the Middle Class, as "ghettos" spread and the safer, nicer areas get more & more expensive. Supply and Demand...as supply shrinks and demand rises, prices go through the roof making it harder for those who aren't rich to afford.
There's plenty of good people that are stuck in bad neighborhoods and these changes make it harder for them. There's a book that talks about this problem people face and I think many should read it. https://books.google.com/books?id=ii...**hole&f=false
I definitely see your point regarding housing codes and enforcement. It's disgraceful.
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