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And now instead of using those plastic grocery bags for dog poop, wet clothing after a day at the pool/beach/overnight trip, bagging up super smelly grocery, dirty diapers, bagging my kids' rooms' garbage cans, and all the other things I use those bags for....people will go out and buy plastic bags. Pure genius.
Why would people go out and buy bags as a result of this law? If they still want the bags for those uses you mention, wouldn't they just pay the 5 cents at the supermarket? Where would they go buy bags at a cheaper cost than 5 cents each? Please answer this question directly. You posited a cause and effect. You state that charging 5 cents per bag at the supermarket will cause people to go out and buy plastic bags elsewhere. Why? Where? And at what cost per bag?
Other thoughts.. (separate, so as not to detract from the above. Looking to see what twingles' logic there is...and also those who seemingly agreed).
The new law sounds ridiculous on the surface, but if you think about it for a bit (it's hard, I know), it does kind of make sense. Incentivize an environmentally friendly practice with a truly nominal fee.
On the other hand, they could have incentivized the reusable bags by giving a discount to those who use them. But, I see that the store keeps the $$, and it covers their cost for the bags I believe. Makes sense.
If you really take a step back and think about it, and forget for a moment that we're just used to using disposable bags every time we shop...it makes so much more sense to use a re-usable bag. It's such a waste...other than the few we keep in the home for dog poop, small trash cans, whatever. Do you use a disposable purse every day? Disposable backpack for school? If you look at it objectively, it's kind of a weird practice that stores give customers a disposable vessel to transport their goods home. Should the store provide a disposable car to bring your goods home in?
At the end of the day, if you shop once a week and use 10 bags, that's 50 cents...or $26 per year. If it motivates some people to use reusable bags, that's not so bad. I hate the idea of the middle class being hit up for more $$, but this one seems largely a symbolic burden moreso than a real burden.
Why should we have more government regulations telling us what we should do? I never litter with the plastic bags, why should I be subject to new rules because some people are not responsible?
Why should we have more government regulations telling us what we should do? I never litter with the plastic bags, why should I be subject to new rules because some people are not responsible?
C’mon. US has been trending Communist since WWII.
The new law sounds ridiculous on the surface, but if you think about it for a bit (it's hard, I know), it does kind of make sense. Incentivize an environmentally friendly practice with a truly nominal fee.
IMO, the nominal fee does two counter-productive things:
1. Provides minimal incentive for people to not use the store-supplied bags
2. Provides the store a MAJOR incentive to have people use as many bags as possible
These bags cost the store well under 1 cent each. At 5 cents, they are pocketing easy money. This is the opposite of an incentive to curb their use.
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On the other hand, they could have incentivized the reusable bags by giving a discount to those who use them.
That would have made some sense. But we are talking about government. This law sounds like a payoff to supermarket owners cloaked in a false "environmentally friendly" narrative.
The kicker is that is also applies to paper bags. To me, that simply proves it is not about the "evil plastic" but a means to put some extra cash in store owner's pockets.
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At the end of the day, if you shop once a week and use 10 bags, that's 50 cents...or $26 per year. If it motivates some people to use reusable bags, that's not so bad. I hate the idea of the middle class being hit up for more $$, but this one seems largely a symbolic burden moreso than a real burden.
Which helps to prove my point. The cost of the bags will be meaningless to most shoppers. Yet I know from working with some large grocery chains that the total cost of bags is a big expense for them. The government just mandated this expense into a windfall profit item.
Someone is Suffolk has to be getting a kickback for this one. And the beauty is that they have misdirected people into thinking it is a good thing.
The amount of complaining I see regarding this new law is absurd. Spend a couple bucks to buy the reusable, washable bags and STFU about it. Christ, you'd think stores were now allowed Prima Nocta the way some folks are complaining.
It’s just another tick in the communist agenda.
Our freedom is washing away little by little every single day.
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