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Old 04-23-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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Who needs to hire anyone? I fix my car, my house, build things all thanks to youtube. If you watch other people do it 10-15 times and take your time you can do most anything. Now I am not talking about framing a house or swapping out an engine, just minor stuff like tiling, oil changes, brake job, faucet repair, leaks etc.
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Old 04-23-2018, 06:05 PM
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Should charge higher rates for cops and teachers but they are some of the cheapest chislers around.
They want one percenter quality for pauper rates.
Always hated doing work for cops and teachers. They always broke balls and complained.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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I am your typical home owner that hires day laborers a lot to assist me. I've been needing some help recently, and guys I've used before have gone from 120/day to 190-250/day. I expect to be over charged as a homeowner but that's ridiculous.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:34 PM
 
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Who needs to hire anyone? I fix my car, my house, build things all thanks to youtube. If you watch other people do it 10-15 times and take your time you can do most anything. Now I am not talking about framing a house or swapping out an engine, just minor stuff like tiling, oil changes, brake job, faucet repair, leaks etc.
The original comment is about what a construction company should pay their employees. You are way off base here... We aren't talking about you fixing up your house on the weekend.
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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Lead carpenter should get atleast 75k with decent health benefits. Even a paid cellphone would be appropriate. Per day, $350. A jr Carpenter depends on experience. 5-7 years 25/hr cash.
I started for $70/day in 96. I had a great boss who always bumped my salary as I performed more. I left him reluctantly after 12 years with 75k, health insurance, paid cellphone and paid transportation/gas. Best decision I was ever forced to make.
hmmm.. Interesting. I'll talk to some of my friends who work in home improvement. I don't know if many of them have employees that make $1,750 a week plus full benefits. I'll ask though.

I'm not saying the employees don't deserve it, I just don't think home improvement companies such as Time White, Kenco, Streamline, Great Additions, OZ, Shells Only,Turn Key, Ambassador and such are not paying employees that type of money on the books. Between a salary like that, plus benefits, plus payroll taxes, most homeowners wouldn't be ale to afford a siding job let alone a second floor addition...
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Old 04-24-2018, 04:58 AM
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They're not paying that much. Nowhere near that.
15-18/hour is average.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:26 AM
 
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hmmm.. Interesting. I'll talk to some of my friends who work in home improvement. I don't know if many of them have employees that make $1,750 a week plus full benefits. I'll ask though.

I'm not saying the employees don't deserve it, I just don't think home improvement companies such as Time White, Kenco, Streamline, Great Additions, OZ, Shells Only,Turn Key, Ambassador and such are not paying employees that type of money on the books. Between a salary like that, plus benefits, plus payroll taxes, most homeowners wouldn't be ale to afford a siding job let alone a second floor addition...
No. $350/day would be if one free lanced and worked once in a while with a company. Some guys can swing more than that. Also, “full benefits “? No. Just health insurance. I know a couple of those companies only have drug addicts (alcoholics, pill poppers) working for them. Kenco’s owner is a bit of a weirdo himself but, they do decent work. Lots of illegal’s and subcontractors involved too. It’s not easy out there.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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Interesting. So what do you pay your men? Say you have a person with 4-5 years experience who is a Jr. Mechanic. What is his total package?
Salary is commensurate with actual experience. He might start at $20/hr until he shows what his true skills are. Our full mechanics are right in line with the statistics, above mean. We offer profit sharing, 1 week paid vacation, 3 paid sick days, company vehicles, uniforms. We're too small to offer health insurance; the cost would further drive up our billable rate, making it even more difficult to compete against fly-by-night, shady guys operating out of the back of their truck.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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Lead carpenter should get atleast 75k with decent health benefits. Even a paid cellphone would be appropriate. Per day, $350. A jr Carpenter depends on experience. 5-7 years 25/hr cash.
I started for $70/day in 96. I had a great boss who always bumped my salary as I performed more. I left him reluctantly after 12 years with 75k, health insurance, paid cellphone and paid transportation/gas. Best decision I was ever forced to make.
$350 an hour if he were operating as a sub and you were giving him a 1099. Then he would also have to be licensed and supply you with liability and workers comp certificates.

If you're paying cash, is that being picked up as a payroll liability when your liability policy and workers comp policies are audited, or are you flying under the radar?

Paid cellphones are great because an employer can see exactly how much time an employee spent calling and texting during work hours. Helps build a case ifyou have to fire them and they try to claim unemployment.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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hmmm.. Interesting. I'll talk to some of my friends who work in home improvement. I don't know if many of them have employees that make $1,750 a week plus full benefits. I'll ask though.

I'm not saying the employees don't deserve it, I just don't think home improvement companies such as Time White, Kenco, Streamline, Great Additions, OZ, Shells Only,Turn Key, Ambassador and such are not paying employees that type of money on the books. Between a salary like that, plus benefits, plus payroll taxes, most homeowners wouldn't be ale to afford a siding job let alone a second floor addition...
A number of the larger companies hire warm bodies who are not diversified. They are not paying a premium for them, and chances are, some of them have been hired with minimal, if any skills -- so lower pay.
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