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What does mass testing accomplish? Or do you know something the rest of us don’t? It would be interesting to find out that “mass testing” or any sort of testing was the actual cure to killing the virus and scaring it enough to go away.
One idea on mass testing that might strike some as far-fetched: "But it does require testing repeatedly, on the order of the entire US population every two weeks." (Vox)
Another theory, "Weyl estimated that a completely random testing system without contact tracing would require about 100 million tests a day." (Vox)
Then there is "Paul Romer, a professor of economics at New York University, wants a bit less: 20 million to 25 million tests per day, plus more frequent testing for front-line workers exposed to the virus. "In a follow-up message, Romer noted that some infectious disease specialists have told him even 35 million tests per day may not be enough." (Vox)
It is assumed these (theoretical) tests would be involuntary (there simply are not enough new folks each day who think they might possibly have the virus).
Of course they go up each day. They aren't ever going down as they are TOTAL cases of people who have tested positive running back from March to the current day.
That is not a good number to look at to determine how things are going. Hospitalization rate and capacity are better indicators and both have them have come down significantly from our peak, but are not quite where Cuomo's plan says they should be to open up.
One metric they are looking at here is the number of positives as a % of people tested - of course positives are going to go up, as more and more people are tested. BUt what's the percentage of people tested that are testing positive? Ours if finally declining even as they test more people.
Really hard to waste keystrokes on a question as silly or naive as this. Google COVID testing (virus and antibody). That should give you 7 or 8 million links to start from. Almost all will say exactly the same thing about testing in relation to re-opening. You're welcome.
Testing does absolutely nothing at this point especially somewhere like NYC. All it does is create some false sense of security.
66% of all new cases coming from people staying home. Yeah, this stay at home bs, is really working. Time to get back to living people. Moderator cut: (implied) language removed coumo
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66% of all new cases coming from people staying home. Yeah, this stay at home bs, is really working. Time to get back to living people. coumo
The governor is deflecting. Again, he is in a huge quandary because he knows until he is able to allay the concerns about public transit, reopening en masse downstate is not an option. Now the MTA is saying they are testing a disinfectant that could protect trains for 30-90 days at a time..mere days after they came up with the novel idea that they should start cleaning subways overnight/address the homeless issue.
He says he was surprised that 66% of new cases were from people who stayed home or retired...and he thought it would be those mainly those who ride the trains. Um the state has been in a virtual shutdown with only essential folks working...likely more than 66% of the population in the state is either working from home/unemployed/seniors. Subway ridership is down 93%/LIRR over 75% so the 34% that could be infected by using public transit compared to who is actually using it (less than maybe 10% on the subways) is far too high of a rate.
Businesses reviewed his phased reopening plan (which didn't address the subway directly) and they were like OK we have to take all these precautions but what about our workers who have to ride the subway?
He's fooling no one and he was way too late in addressing the obvious concerns about the subway/LIRR and is in crisis control mode to make people feel like it is safe.
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I’m so done with Cuomo. He should have shut up weeks ago when he had everyone outside of NY sold on his PR stunt. It’s just old and played out now. It’s obvious he expects Washington to bail out the huge debt Ny has been in way before this corona hit. It’s like he don’t want this lockdown to ever end.
I’m so done with Cuomo. He should have shut up weeks ago when he had everyone outside of NY sold on his PR stunt. It’s just old and played out now. It’s obvious he expects Washington to bail out the huge debt Ny has been in way before this corona hit. It’s like he don’t want this lockdown to ever end.
What happens if we hit the 14 day decline and then one day it goes up again, do we start all over again?
Bellone was wondering about things like "3 day averages", etc. to try and see if Suffolk would be compliant.
But using Cuomo logic yes, you would start over again.
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