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Old 01-08-2021, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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One day these "patriots" will realize they were actually best represented (by far) by Bernie Sanders and that class revolution is the train they missed while being hornswaggled by a dippy carnival barker.
LMFAO. Uhm, no. The patriots don't want socialism.

 
Old 01-08-2021, 09:16 AM
 
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LMFAO. Uhm, no. The patriots don't want socialism.
Sure, whatever you say.

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Old 01-08-2021, 09:24 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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Trickle down economics creating wealth inequality, a crooked partisan duopoly (including the 4 supreme jerk-offz referenced by the OP) and a for-profit 24/7 news/internet cycle are the real problems but those are complicated issues, boring and sail over most people's heads. Not conducive to one line, substance-less, lying tweets. A huge swath of America needs to read a book...if they can read. They need to know WHY they are angry and WHAT policies they want changed then act for that change. Dressing up like a viking and storming the capitol for a selfie isn't revolution. First you have to figure out what your revolution is about and what your actual goals are. One day these "patriots" will realize they were actually best represented (by far) by Bernie Sanders and that class revolution is the train they missed while being hornswaggled by a dippy carnival barker.
When you see them ripping flags off poles and throwing said pole back into the crowd of "their people" without a thought or care in the world, you know the people who are there are only there to destroy. Plus I 've heard so many sound bites "we're here for this" "we're here for that" ....no common cause....they all have money to fly to Washington (from as far as Hawaii) stay in a nice hotel (many filmed in the Grand Hyatt that evening) but they can barely speak the Queen's English. Unreal.
If you asked any of them how Trump's policies have helped them they would not be able to tell you.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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Of New York State's 27 congressional representatives, four objected to the results of the 2020 presidential election. I am addressing the procedure on the night after the January 6, 2021, violent attacks on the Capitol.
Those who objected were:
Lee Zeldin CD-1, Long Island, office in Patchogue.
Nicole Malliotakis, CD-11, Bay Ridge and Staten Island.
Elise Stefanik, CD-21, Glens Falls, Plattsburgh, and Watertown.
Chris Jacobs, CD-27, between Rochester and Buffalo. Offices in Williamsville and Geneseo.
People are apt to take the high road and point out that the representatives objecting to the election results is well within their rights. But the issue is way more complicated than that, and to willfully ignore or exclude that from how you interpret these actions is both dangerous and irresponsible.

Their objections were entirely due to pandering to people who support President Trump, not because there's any legitimate evidence that the results are fraudulent or unreliable. Consider what that means, what Pandora's Box has now been opened to fringe groups on both sides of our political spectrum. Having duly elected officials lend credibility to this conspiracy theory absent any tangible evidence to support it means that this will now be considered the norm and an appropriate reaction when your candidate loses an election.

What has transpired these past few months has the potential to succeed where our enemies never could, to crumble our great democracy and submerge us into a period of great chaos. And all of this because we have allowed someone who is a world-class self promoter and the first Presidential candidate to leverage the potency of social media to exploit the most basic flaws of the human mind.

To not hold these representatives accountable is akin to starting the process to separate how we self-govern from the Constitution. And while you may think this overly dramatic, it's actually entirely accurate.

I don't care what your political mores are, this is a moment in our history where we need to reaffirm our belief in and support of the Constitution. Those who attempted to overturn the election results are literally choosing to go against those very laws that have defined and defended our way of life for more than 200 years.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 09:48 AM
 
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People are apt to take the high road and point out that the representatives objecting to the election results is well within their rights. But the issue is way more complicated than that, and to willfully ignore or exclude that from how you interpret these actions is both dangerous and irresponsible.

Their objections were entirely due to pandering to people who support President Trump, not because there's any legitimate evidence that the results are fraudulent or unreliable. Consider what that means, what Pandora's Box has now been opened to fringe groups on both sides of our political spectrum. Having duly elected officials lend credibility to this conspiracy theory absent any tangible evidence to support it means that this will now be considered the norm and an appropriate reaction when your candidate loses an election.

What has transpired these past few months has the potential to succeed where our enemies never could, to crumble our great democracy and submerge us into a period of great chaos. And all of this because we have allowed someone who is a world-class self promoter and the first Presidential candidate to leverage the potency of social media to exploit the most basic flaws of the human mind.

To not hold these representatives accountable is akin to starting the process to separate how we self-govern from the Constitution. And while you may think this overly dramatic, it's actually entirely accurate.

I don't care what your political mores are, this is a moment in our history where we need to reaffirm our belief in and support of the Constitution. Those who attempted to overturn the election results are literally choosing to go against those very laws that have defined and defended our way of life for more than 200 years.
Democracy has already been more broken by our two party stranglehold, a Fed printing fake money (ie DEBT) to the tune of $30b a month (mostly going directly to Wall St), partisan news organizations, trickle down wealth inequality. But no protestor, rep or news agency is talking about those. They correctly assume Americans are too stupid or distracted to care. Trump is a shiny thing that got the idiots excited. The reps and followers are the real problem. Either utterly stupid or utterly disingenuous about their real concerns. Like Twing's said, I think they just wanted to play dress up and break stuff. Real revolution is way over their heads. I've also said we should be grateful Trump is such an incompetent. A more talented disruptor could really take the country down. Prob will sooner or later. Hitler was a poor working class painter, so his rhetoric at least made sense to an angry populace. Why these dopes think a Richie Rich doosh like Trump cares about them is just the most absurd thing ever.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 10:35 AM
 
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One eyewitness to the events and the killing of the unarmed protestor inside the capital building is now giving interviews (he has already been detained and questioned by police): https://kutv.com/news/local/utahn-in...-chaotic-scene
Old news. There are many profiles online about the woman killed and I read the witness account yesterday (he basically said she shouldn't have done it and the cop was in the right to fire, said they were trying to pull her back from the broken window she was climbing through when she got shot). That stopped any others in their tracks. Then the protestors failed to disperse or "make a hole" so paramedics could help her. Nice teamwork. 14 yr air force veteran turned unemployed QAnon kook. Next time an armed cop says stop or I'll shoot, stop or get shot. Ask a black person how it works, they know.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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9mos (4yrs?) of looting, rioting, burning, pillaging, taking over city areas (portland, ca, ny) and they're 'peacefully protesting'.

1 day at capital with what was mostly peaceful, no fires, no vandalism (1 window?), no destruction, no maletov cocktails... even when they broke in when that american was shot, they did not look all that threatening, it was wrong but she was not armed or dangerous..anyway... one day of that and the country has fallen on its darkest day? Impeach the prez?

COME ON... this is pure unadulterated media and liberal bias... the likes of which just may be the undoing of our american fabric at the hands of those truly in power (soros and the liberal elite who donate millions to wreak havoc on our democracy)
 
Old 01-08-2021, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So who are these flaming idiots who keep donating $$$ to Trump which is feeding his dumpster fire?

You know that's all he cares about at this point...
 
Old 01-08-2021, 11:23 AM
 
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before this post is blocked .. check out the video of the Capitol cop being crushed just put online
Link to video of Capitol cop being crushed? I can't find the video.
Thanks if you provide a link!
 
Old 01-08-2021, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Way to send a message to any real threats in the future...

I am for lethal measures if you storm a federal building. I don't give a flip who you are and certainly wouldn't miss a single one of them...
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