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Old 03-02-2021, 07:07 AM
 
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“The only thing more stunning than your lack of understanding about economics is your degree of prejudice; "Jose"? Really?”

In all fairness, he said Jose and “Billy”
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Old 03-02-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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How was it determined (and by who) that $15.00 / hour should be the next national minimum wage? Why is $15.01 or $15.07 too high? Why is $14.98 or $14.87 too low?
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Old 03-02-2021, 07:55 AM
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They should do, what they do in Europe: modify the minimum wage by age. So a 16 or 18 year old makes a modified minimum wage. Make the full minimum wage effective at 21 years of age.
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Old 03-02-2021, 08:02 AM
 
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Really? Cite your source, because that seems super anecdotal and contrary to what I've been reading in forums and social media threads.



Cash tips disappeared when credit and debit cards became pervasive. The idea that people are throwing paper currency on the table on the way out is absurd. And tips should be eliminated, they're a relic of the past once used as signaling for the wealthy. Imagine a world where a professional server is compensated fairly for their services and don't need to perform stupid human tricks to earn an extra $5.



Your grasp of economics is stunning. Or, rather, your lack of a grasp on economics is stunning. You're assuming that the current minimum wage is fair and makes sense, which it doesn't. Where in the marketplace have prices remained stagnant for more than a decade (trick question, they haven't)?

The only thing more stunning than your lack of understanding about economics is your degree of prejudice; "Jose"? Really?



Someone who hasn't gotten a raise in more than a decade, that's who. Are stores and restaurants charging the same prices for their goods and services for more than a decade?



I shop at Target all the time where they've been paying their staff $15 for quite a while already. And guess what, the lines move faster there than in any grocery store I use where the minimum wage still prevails. People who are paid a farer wage tend to be happier, and happier people perform better in their jobs.
Fantastic post. Best of the day.
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Old 03-02-2021, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Really? Cite your source, because that seems super anecdotal and contrary to what I've been reading in forums and social media threads.



Cash tips disappeared when credit and debit cards became pervasive. The idea that people are throwing paper currency on the table on the way out is absurd. And tips should be eliminated, they're a relic of the past once used as signaling for the wealthy. Imagine a world where a professional server is compensated fairly for their services and don't need to perform stupid human tricks to earn an extra $5.



Your grasp of economics is stunning. Or, rather, your lack of a grasp on economics is stunning. You're assuming that the current minimum wage is fair and makes sense, which it doesn't. Where in the marketplace have prices remained stagnant for more than a decade (trick question, they haven't)?

The only thing more stunning than your lack of understanding about economics is your degree of prejudice; "Jose"? Really?



Someone who hasn't gotten a raise in more than a decade, that's who. Are stores and restaurants charging the same prices for their goods and services for more than a decade?



I shop at Target all the time where they've been paying their staff $15 for quite a while already. And guess what, the lines move faster there than in any grocery store I use where the minimum wage still prevails. People who are paid a farer wage tend to be happier, and happier people perform better in their jobs.

Speaking of completely anecdotal nonsense.....
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:00 AM
 
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Speaking of completely anecdotal nonsense.....
Their earnings, hiring numbers and stock price aren't anecdotal. They all directly fly in the face of the "bad for business" argument on $15/hr. It's wonderful to see all the "have littles" fighting over the crumbs after the top 1% took their cut and left everyone else holding $27T in debt. But yeah, $15/hr, oh the horror! Little Johnny might actually get the Kung Fu Grip GI Joe doll this year with mom's new found retail riches.
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Their earnings, hiring numbers and stock price aren't anecdotal. They all directly fly in the face of the "bad for business" argument on $15/hr. It's wonderful to see all the "have littles" fighting over the crumbs after the top 1% took their cut and left everyone else holding $27T in debt. But yeah, $15/hr, oh the horror! Little Johnny might actually get the Kung Fu Grip GI Joe doll this year with mom's new found retail riches.
Big companies like target, amazon, etc can absolutely afford 15 an hour and i agree they should be paying as such. Its small businesses that can suffer from a big increase.
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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How much is enough?
When you’re making BILLIONS of dollars, how much more do you really need?
Really? Pay people more money. They make you your billions.
These clowns always make sure they get their entitled cut.
Which is fine, I don’t have a problem with people making money, but the greed, the lust for power and status, and, contempt for the little guy(whom makes your power and fortune possible) is disgusting.
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Old 03-02-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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https://www.inc.com/magazine/201603/...usinesses.html
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Old 03-02-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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Big companies like target, amazon, etc can absolutely afford 15 an hour and i agree they should be paying as such. Its small businesses that can suffer from a big increase.
It's shortsighted. Small businesses that pay more do better, not worse. It's another red herring argument they've been spoon feeding for years. THAT is why Target gets better employees than Walmart and is perceived as a higher end, nicer place to shop. Why Starbucks gets $3 for a cup of coffee and it's "a ripoff" but Dunkin gets $3 for the same cup and "it's a bargain." Perception. Would an owner let their best employee go over a few bucks an hour? If so, better rethink their business model. That employee will walk soon anyway.
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