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Amazon isn’t the only job in town and it isn’t their responsibility to provide jobs that people can afford a mortgage. I would think there are higher paying jobs with benefits with Amazon in management, etc. if you are pig king packages, then that is more like a Walmart job so it is not a career position. Get more skills and make yourself marketable.
Warehouse jobs used to pay mortgages though
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Did they? The mortgage interest rates were 10-15%. The only way they were affording a mortgage on a warehouse job was on the GI Bill. Which is how residential LI was born. Socialism. lol! It's funny the perception people have of LI as this mega-affluent place where everyone lived on the gold coast and pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. In reality, it was subsidized, assembly line, affordable housing for post WWII boomers built on decrepit potato fields. And we haven't really fixed the infrastructure since.
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Did they? The mortgage interest rates were 10-15%. The only way they were affording a mortgage on a warehouse job was on the GI Bill. Which is how residential LI was born. Socialism. lol! It's funny the perception people have of LI as this mega-affluent place where everyone lived on the gold coast and pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. In reality, it was subsidized, assembly line, affordable housing for post WWII boomers built on decrepit potato fields. And we haven't really fixed the infrastructure since.
Good point, thanks for the history
Man they did a good job on people
But what do you expect, average American IQ is 100
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Nothing has changed since this great country was started. No one is owed anything by anyone. No entitlements. No free anything. Every man for himself for the most part. That is what made this country so great. It gave people the motivation to doing better than they were. Those who are legitimately disabled should be able to get help from charity or those who want to help. Not by stealing people’s pay against their will and divvying it out to every lazy bum out there with their hand out.
Amazon offers jobs just like Macy’s or Joe’s Deli. Take the job that suits you based on your abilities and qualifications. No company owes anyone a living wage for every position. Want to work in McDonalds? Good. Take your college degree and apply for a job in management, or an executive. Don’t have any college? That’s your choice or circumstance. Start flipping burgers and work your way up. No, we cannot and should not be able to pay a mortgage flipping burgers. Better yourself and move up to better pay. Have some friggin pride.
Nothing has changed since this great country was started. No one is owed anything by anyone. No entitlements. No free anything. Every man for himself for the most part. That is what made this country so great. It gave people the motivation to doing better than they were. Those who are legitimately disabled should be able to get help from charity or those who want to help. Not by stealing people’s pay against their will and divvying it out to every lazy bum out there with their hand out.
Amazon offers jobs just like Macy’s or Joe’s Deli. Take the job that suits you based on your abilities and qualifications. No company owes anyone a living wage for every position. Want to work in McDonalds? Good. Take your college degree and apply for a job in management, or an executive. Don’t have any college? That’s your choice or circumstance. Start flipping burgers and work your way up. No, we cannot and should not be able to pay a mortgage flipping burgers. Better yourself and move up to better pay. Have some friggin pride.
Agreed. And no company is owed anything by anyone either. No tax breaks, no subsidies, no free anything. Every company for itself. That is what made this country so great - free market capitalism and open competition, not the government picking winners and losers. Those companies that need help should get it from charity or those who want to help, not by shifting the tax burden to regular citizens. If it's too expensive to set up shop here, then don't.
The country was fine until we started all of these insane entitlements. My ancestors, along with many others, came here from their country and got nothing. No handouts. No anything. If they didn’t make it, they were in their own. That’s when people took responsibility for themselves. The country is effectively worse now due to all the lazy people who contribute nothing to society. They are leeches. Crony capitalism or not, Amazon, nor any company, owes anyone anything other than to be compensated daily for their time based on their value to the company, which is also based on their experience and education. The problem is that every moron with a high school diploma thinks that they should be paid more than $5/hr for sweeping a floor.
The country was fine until we started all of these insane entitlements. My ancestors, along with many others, came here from their country and got nothing. No handouts. No anything. If they didn’t make it, they were in their own. That’s when people took responsibility for themselves. The country is effectively worse now due to all the lazy people who contribute nothing to society. They are leeches. Crony capitalism or not, Amazon, nor any company, owes anyone anything other than to be compensated daily for their time based on their value to the company, which is also based on their experience and education. The problem is that every moron with a high school diploma thinks that they should be paid more than $5/hr for sweeping a floor.
We have had several job fairs here in this area. Since, our J1 students are not going to be coming this summer due to closed embassies, we are having a very hard time filling openings. Hotels are beside themselves with no housekeeping staff, and have been told that they need $27.10 to make it worth their while to come off UI and work to take any job!!!!
Agreed. And no company is owed anything by anyone either. No tax breaks, no subsidies, no free anything. Every company for itself. That is what made this country so great - free market capitalism and open competition, not the government picking winners and losers. Those companies that need help should get it from charity or those who want to help, not by shifting the tax burden to regular citizens. If it's too expensive to set up shop here, then don't.
I agree 100% Unfortunately that’s the way our system is. However, these companies can operate just about anywhere. They don’t need to stay here with the high tax corporation rate. Along with the high operational expenses.
they think america was always this way, and since they do, they accept it as the norm
That has nothing to do with what the employer pays. That is a problem of what our dollar is worth. When my parents bought a house in 1965, it cost $17K I think the mortgage was around $300 with taxes (but taxes were super low back then). My mother stayed at home with the two kids (as did every other mother on the street). MY dad did not make much money and I would guess he made a couple of hundred dollars a week. Lets just say that he made $15000/yr as an example. His salary was just under the cost of the house price. In 2021, the same house is $500,000, but most people are not making $500,000.
Blame government and all of the entitlements and the value of a dollar. Amazon pays what it pays. I delivered newspapers for Newsday when I was 16 making $20 a week. I didn't demand more money because I could not live on that. When I was 25 in the mid 80s, I got a job in an Insurance Company Mailroom for $!!,000 a year. I could not afford to support a family or buy a house. Guess what? That was my problem. Within a year, I took college courses, got a promotion and made a bit more but still couldn't afford to really live on my own with rent and a car loan. Again, that is my fault for not finishing college earlier on. I did not blame the insurance company, or the next one that I worked at. Nobody owed me a livable wage. For me to get that, I had to find a job that paid me enough. In the next year or two, I did just that. I didn't sit around moping that the top 1% should be paying more taxes and I should get assistance. No one else should be either.
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