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Precisely why it’s pointless debating with you. But they will be EVERYWHERE in 5 years amirite? Lol
Everywhere is an exaggeration, but they are becoming very popular, and be mostly part of new installs, and replace existing central ac units. They will be very common.
Precisely why it’s pointless debating with you. But they will be EVERYWHERE in 5 years amirite? Lol
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Everywhere is an exaggeration, but they are becoming very popular, and be mostly part of new installs, and replace existing central ac units. They will be very common.
Everywhere is definitely an exaggeration as people don't generally change their heating systems every five years. I think what was meant is that they'll be common for new construction and for upgrades/replacements of older systems which is pretty likely. There are parts of the northeast where that's already the case as mentioned earlier with Massachusetts and coastal Maine. A lot of people, including some HVAC installers in the area, are unfamiliar with heat pumps that are specifically built for cold climates and their experience is with units that were not intended for colder climates and some people got really burned on those. I think that's how you get so many people being really adamant that they don't work at subzero or even freezing temperatures when there's pretty ample proof that there are commercially available ones that do well a dozen or more degrees below 0F.
Everywhere is definitely an exaggeration as people don't generally change their heating systems every five years. I think what was meant is that they'll be common for new construction and for upgrades/replacements of older systems which is pretty likely. There are parts of the northeast where that's already the case as mentioned earlier with Massachusetts and coastal Maine. A lot of people, including some HVAC installers in the area, are unfamiliar with heat pumps that are specifically built for cold climates and their experience is with units that were not intended for colder climates and some people got really burned on those. I think that's how you get so many people being really adamant that they don't work at subzero or even freezing temperatures when there's pretty ample proof that there are commercially available ones that do well a dozen or more degrees below 0F.
New construction on LI is a trickle. And gas heating equipment is still FAR cheaper and less prone to breakdowns as well. They won’t become common here anytime soon.
New construction on LI is a trickle. And gas heating equipment is still FAR cheaper and less prone to breakdowns as well. They won’t become common here anytime soon.
Oh yea, if you have gas hookup and your heating is in fairly good, working order, then you probably aren't going to switch anytime soon. It's when you need a replacement especially for something like resistance heating or oil heating, or just a brand new one like in new construction, then people would be weighing the costs. At the moment, the install costs for heat pumps can be higher though maybe not if you're also looking to have it as your cooling system as well and that also needs replacement or it's new construction. For total cost of ownership, even if there is higher initial purchase and install prices, generally it'll be cheaper in operation so there's a kind of estimated payback period depending on your local context. I think the general gist that they'll be commonplace for new construction and for replacement of old systems is about right, but saying they are everywhere is an exaggeration. However, saying that there aren't heat pump systems that can deal with Long Island winters is incorrect.
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When we installed central AC, adding the heat pump feature was only slightly more expensive. I'm glad we did it. We save a ton in the fall/spring instead of burning oil. It has also saved us twice when the oil burner crapped out on a cold night.
We put in Mitsubishi mini splits when we renovated our cape. We still use our gas heat but like knowing the splits are there if we ever need them. Sometimes we will use the splits for heat for my daughter's bedroom because she is always chilly. I like it for that option as well.
We had them installed by Art at https://anrtechnical.com/ and he was fantastic. He had a great price and really taught us how it all worked.
For home heat? Heat pumps aren't great for heating on LI. When it gets very cold they can't keep up, hence why they are not common here.
I think things may have changed. I used to have a 1990s pump and it could not handle it under 10 degrees, but I moved to a place with a more modern heat pump and it has worked fine to -10 degrees.
Has anyone had a heat pump installed and would you recommend the installer ?
Don't do it: I now live in the Carolina's; in the winter, they can't provide ample heat. And because they cycle constantly, utility bills are outrageous.
I hate heat pumps.
They're heralded, but I think the hype is nonsense.
BTW: I keep my thermostat at 71; on heat pump equipped houses I would keep it around 68-69. Had I attempted to keep the house much warmer, I could understand the ongoing cycling. Thankfully, I now have gas heat.
Don't do it: I now live in the Carolina's; in the winter, they can't provide ample heat. And because they cycle constantly, utility bills are outrageous.
I hate heat pumps.
They're heralded, but I think the hype is nonsense.
BTW: I keep my thermostat at 71; on heat pump equipped houses I would keep it around 68-69. Had I attempted to keep the house much warmer, I could understand the ongoing cycling. Thankfully, I now have gas heat.
Lol. You have a cheap old heat pump. Modern hp work down to ZERO. I love the "experts" here.
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