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Old 01-19-2023, 03:43 PM
 
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Once again, this "just work hard," "don't be entitled," "no handouts" BS is just that. BS. A red herring. A smokescreen to hide something else entirely: you do not support multi-family housing. Not even of the market-rate ~$3,000/mo. variety.

And frankly, some of this BS is verging on the absurd. We have a person here who is anti-multi-family housing despite having lived in a studio apartment (multi-family housing) before moving to a condo (multi-family housing) financed by a 97% LTV mortgage (which was made available by none other than government-sponsored agency Fannie Mae).

We have two people here who don't even live on LI blowing smoke to cover for the fact that they want to be NIMBYs in a part of the country they either don't live in anymore or have never lived in. Be a NIMBY in your own, actual backyard, sheesh! Go oppose multi-family housing in Western New York or Delaware, where you live!

Only one person was honest enough to say that they supported market-rate multi-family housing on LI on the (reasonable) condition that the landlord or owners pay full school taxes.
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Old 01-19-2023, 03:52 PM
 
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^^ Go take your meds… You obviously need help!
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Old 01-19-2023, 04:04 PM
 
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I'm sorry-not-sorry for calling you out on your ladder pulling nonsense and for your ironic praise of a Fannie Mae program. To paraphrase the late, great Ronald Reagan, "handouts are when your neighbor benefits from big gubmint; hard work is when you benefit."
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Old 01-19-2023, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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It appears me that several posters apparently have gotten under another posters skin. I will remind that person that if what you read is upsetting I would encourage the use of the ignore feature.

This is America and back in the dark ages in a class called "civics" we were told we are all entitled to our opinions and also to express them.
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Old 01-19-2023, 10:52 PM
 
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Biden/liberal socialist progressive democrats are at it again.


They're going to bust the suburbs one way or another.

https://therealdeal.com/2023/01/19/b...-housing-rule/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...-fair-housing/

https://www.housingfinance.com/polic...housing-rule_o
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Old 01-20-2023, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Biden/liberal socialist progressive democrats are at it again.


They're going to bust the suburbs one way or another.

https://therealdeal.com/2023/01/19/b...-housing-rule/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...-fair-housing/

https://www.housingfinance.com/polic...housing-rule_o
This is nothing new, Obama had the same initiative, the next GOP admin will just repeal it, then the dem one after that will bring it back. Rinse repeat. Very difficult to enforce and has questionable impact (and subject to lawsuits by localities). Also only applies to communities seeking money from HUD programs.
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Old 01-20-2023, 05:40 AM
 
Location: western NY
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It appears me that several posters apparently have gotten under another posters skin. I will remind that person that if what you read is upsetting I would encourage the use of the ignore feature.

This is America and back in the dark ages in a class called "civics" we were told we are all entitled to our opinions and also to express them.
Bingo!!




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Biden/liberal socialist progressive democrats are at it again.


They're going to bust the suburbs one way or another.
Indeed, that appears to be their goal.



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This is nothing new, Obama had the same initiative....
Had people paid closer attention, 15 years ago, he even said so, in his speeches. Never forget, his famous phrase, "We're going to fundamentally change America". What he left out, was the important part, that being "whether you want it, or not".
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Old 01-20-2023, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Bingo!!






Indeed, that appears to be their goal.





Had people paid closer attention, 15 years ago, he even said so, in his speeches. Never forget, his famous phrase, "We're going to fundamentally change America". What he left out, was the important part, that being "whether you want it, or not".
Yup. The left loathes the suburbs. The federal government can only do so much though, pretty much all they have the authority to do is withhold extra money, and when they try, they almost always get sued by the locality and very often lose.
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Old 01-20-2023, 07:12 AM
 
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Ah, finally some honesty. It was never about #hardwork. It was never about #saynotohandouts. It was never even about scare quote "affordable housing." It was always about not liking multi-family housing. Not even of the market-rate variety.

Which is fine. I said as much already (although unsurprisingly, all the boomers ignored it, including the ex-LI'er now living in Brandon's home state who brought up "civics" class):

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It's a free country; you're certainly entitled to hold such an opinion and view. Just don't self-righteously blow smoke about "hard work" to cover for your NIMBYism.
Since the boomers now want to change tacks from #hardwork to #saynotosocialism, ironically, the redder parts of NY and (the US as a whole) don't seem to have LI's pathological and peculiar opposition to multi-family housing. Wonder why that is
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Old 01-20-2023, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Ah, finally some honesty. It was never about #hardwork. It was never about #saynotohandouts. It was never even about scare quote "affordable housing." It was always about not liking multi-family housing. Not even of the market-rate variety.

Which is fine. I said as much already (although unsurprisingly, all the boomers ignored it, including the ex-LI'er now living in Brandon's home state who brought up "civics" class):



Since the boomers now want to change tacks from #hardwork to #saynotosocialism, ironically, the redder parts of NY and (the US as a whole) don't seem to have LI's pathological and peculiar opposition to multi-family housing. Wonder why that is
lol yeah not a boomer, not even close to one. Not everyone here is in their 50s and 60s that disagree with you. Shocking I know.
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